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pool fencing quandary...

8 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago

I'm posting this in the pool forum and building a home to hopefully pick all the brilliant & creative minds that hang out on these boards! We are thinking ahead and planning for a possible pool installation for a pool to use next year. As you can see in the photo below, our architect was aware that we would likely install a pool at some point and included this on his initial drawings.

In our architect's drawing the fence runs from the exterior garage wall to the outside corner of our master bedroom. I love the idea of this & think it looks great. However, with two kids, I can't get past the idea that if they open the back door off the living room, they will have direct access to the pool and that thought is a little scary! We also let our dogs out the back door to get to the yard, and if the pool fence surrounds that area it will impede their access as well. The dogs are up in years, and we could always let them out into the front yard, so I'm not as concerned about that as the kid issue, obviously.

I can only think of a couple of ideas to solve this issue, one being to push the entire pool back from the house more and have the fence completely surround it. Or maybe screen in the porch and have a secure door off the porch so at least there is another layer of kid-barrier to pool access. I love our open porch so not really sure I want to do this. And I don't feel sure that a more extensive fence will look nearly as intentional as his drawing show. Any ideas? What would you do?


Comments (14)

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Normally you would have a child safety fence that runs on the house side of the pool parallel to the outside fence. Plus an alarm on the doors opening onto the pool area. Here, in S Fl, it is an insurance requirement and code too. IIRC at least 2 barriers to the pool. The child safety fence is removable.

    You can also fence in the entire pool with the child safety fence, in addition to the fence you show, not as a replacement. Here is an example of one:

    Pool Fence in Clermont, FL · More Info
    Look up the building codes and the homeowners insurance requirements for your area so you know what to include.

  • 8 years ago

    I have a similar issue with the dogs and it being so important to have the pool relate correctly to the house. A safety / automated cover is my answer.

    In my area it also eliminates the crazy loud door alarms that are required by code if you have the safety cover.

  • 8 years ago

    Just_janni, we have talked about an automated pool cover! Have you already done this? Is it a big ordeal to cover/uncover with every use? Since we plan a rectangular pool it would definitely be feasible!

    Denita, I have never seen a child safety fence so that's definitely a consideration as well. Our neighbors built a pool last year and their fenced in pool area opens off their covered porch. Regulations required them to have the area fenced with a self closing gate to the yard, but did not require them to block the opening from the porch at all.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    @angelazuill, that is pretty scary about your neighbor's pool. They are a requirement here in S Fl where we have swimming pools all over the place. I'm pretty sure the pool code here is at least 2 barriers from the house to the pool water and has been that was since 2000. Research 'pool safety fence' and research your pool code requirements by your county/municipality.

  • 8 years ago
    I live in Australia, where pools must be fully fenced. My stepson's pool has glass panelling on all sides, so random kids and dogs can't get in, but the look remains "open." Here, pool covers would not be an alternative, since small kids have been known to slip underneath them.
  • 8 years ago

    Good point jmm, we too have to have it fully fenced or a screen enclosure + the two barriers from the house to the pool water. I re-read my post and see I failed to mention that aspect. I don't see a lot of pool covers here at all so I don't know anything at all about them.

  • 8 years ago

    I would just move the pool farther back so it can be fully enclosed. Even if you feel your kids are old enough to be trusted at some point, imagine having friends over with toddlers, or crawling babies. Just way too stressful having it there as a constant temptation and worry.

    p.s. Your house is going to be beautiful, light filled, and airy.


    Angela Zuill thanked Katie S.
  • 8 years ago

    @Denita - step son had to have a pool-cover installed to meet local environmental planning regulations. They greatly reduce evaporation and therefore the need for adding water to the pool (much of Australia is essentially a drought zone, so water preservation is critical). They also keep the water warm in summer, reducing heating requirements.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    @jmm1837: That makes a lot of sense. I'm in S Florida where it is tropical, that is code word for very rainy at least 6 months a year and just a little bit of rain the rest of the year. Don't get me wrong, we have plenty of sunshine. But from April through November we get anywhere from 3.5 to 8 inches of rain, on average, per month.

  • 8 years ago

    The pool cover I am talking about can be walked on, and is sealed around the edges. there's no way to get under it / drown. That would kinda negate the "safety" part of "safety cover".

  • 8 years ago

    I had twin toddlers when we built our last house. I had a four sided fence with a locking gate and an automatic cover. Two layers of safety. The thought of one of one of my boys getting out and drowning really scared me. I probably would have skipped the pool altogether but was overruled by the rest of the family.

    even with the automatic cover water can collect on the top of the cover without your pump running. Certainly enough to drown a child.

  • PRO
    8 years ago
    We're going through the same process right now. We just started building a pool in our backyard. The requirement here in California is also 2 safety barriers, doesn't have to be a fence. Our pool contractor suggested the door alarms that go off if any exterior door opens, and the pool sensor that alarms if anything enters the pool. We are going with those,but I'm still not comfortable enough with two small kids. So we're also going to either have a safety cover (not a regular cover that someone could actually get stuck in) or a safety fence. Haven't decided which yet.
  • 8 years ago

    I appreciate all the feedback so much!! I have a feeling we will end up just pushing the pool back more from the house and having it fully fenced. I love the look of having it more "married" to the outdoor living space, but I just can't imagine leaving any chance that the kids could get out there unattended. Terrifying.

    Denita, I agree, it is scary. The neighbors do have a railing all around the porch leading to the pool and they have a toddler, so they added a gate to the opening from the porch to the pool area, at the top of the steps, but it was not a requirement here in Tennessee (I just checked the codes).

    Katie S, thank you!! We have actually been in the house nearly 4 years and it is very light filled! It's raining here today and we still don't have any lamps/lights on at all- our architect did such a great job designing our home!

    ILoveRed, I'm being overruled on the pool as well, ha. I've dragged my feet for the last two years with safety and maintenance in mind, but the rest of the family is so gung-ho it looks like we are headed that direction. And honestly, the neighbor's pool keeps their kids (and sometimes mine) so entertained and subsequently ready for bed at the end of the day it's getting harder and harder to argue, ha! But safety is a huge concern.