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8 years ago

Still trying to figure out which door to order.

First I thought the leaded half moon so we get more light into the foyer.

Yesterday I wondered if I should instead get the half moon fanlite that has clear glass where the design seems to match almost exactly the 4 1st floor windows in our living room and study.


Not long ago I asked here if I should do the white sidelites, and that I am doing :)

https://www.houzz.com/discussions/white-sidelights-vs-fiberglass-wood-stained-dsvw-vd~5271058


What do you think of the trim framing around the door. Should it be white like the sidelite, or should the trim be the color of the wood fiberglass door as shown in the 2nd option?


thanks :)


half moon Leaded Specialty glass
half moon Fanlite clear glass

Comments (40)

  • 8 years ago

    I'd do #2, but the sidelights are all wrong. The sidelights make the door unit look like standard Home Depot fake panels. It's so factory-made looking. I'd go with plain glass in the sidelights.

    diyher thanked tatts
  • 8 years ago

    thanks, but I don't want plain glass in the sidelights :) That way anyone can see in from the street when the lights are on inside. It's why I want to do the leaded type glass. It's not a Home Depot door :). I can't do glass up top in the header because the arch doesn't match anything that Therma-Tru fiberglass options has. We can't adjust the curve in the header because it has stonework that can't be changes without major costs. If it would be easy to change the header to glass, I was going to do it. But after spending 40 minutes on the phone with the manufacturer, I found out it wasn't possible :(

    How about a door like this that still has the curve but no glass


  • 8 years ago

    or just a 6 panel. These are the higher end wood look fiberglass.



  • 8 years ago

    the one thing that would be good, if I choose just a 6 panel colonial door, then the side light glass I have a lot more options. Before they only did the oak grain in the half moon and only 3 options for sidelight glass. I would have a dozen or more options if only the sidelights had glass

  • 8 years ago

    I love the color of the green door, almost the same shade of our kitchen and powder room off the foyer. Only problem with the painted door, I would have to keep up on the painting more so. Painting a door to be really smooth, requires spraying it, which is a lot of work. I figured the wood stained door would be classic and the color might not ever go out of style. I just copied and pasted it here to show it :)

  • 8 years ago

    this is my house without the overhang, I copied and pasted that a couple years ago and don't have a newer photo yet.


  • 8 years ago

    By "plain glass" I didn't mean clear. You could use seeded, frosted, textured, patterned, etc. Lots of choices that maintain your privacy.

    diyher thanked tatts
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    I really like the arch door with the arched top, but the horizontal lines fight with the sidelights in a way. Therefore I like the stained door in the 3 example with the sidelights that don't have a vertical line per'se in them, and the sidelight medallions line up nicely with the vertical panels of the doors. The other thing I would encourage, is absent a storm door on the front, go ahead and install a a third lock high above the standard bolt and rotating lock of your door(your door may not come with this or your door's frame, but with sidelights, it is important.) This third lock up high, would have no knob but require a second key on the exterior and interior of the home. We have a therma tru door, 2 decades now, on the west front, it is holding up beautifully in the heat it endures. I think staining the doorframe would be good. I guess leaving the sidelights white and the overhead arch white is okay given your white windows.

    diyher thanked redsilver
  • 8 years ago
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    I'll answer this in two posts since both tatts and redsilver replied :)

    RE: tatts,

    I don't have as many choices of glass like I would in choosing glass for say a cabinet door. I have to go with the glass that Therma-Tru has.

    Here is part of my reasoning for getting some type of leaded glass. I want privacy, but not 100% privacy. I'd like some small parts of the design glass to be clear enough that I can stand in front of it and look outside without opening the door for either to see quickly how much snow lol or any weather, and if I'm looking out for a FedEx or UPS package drop-off.

  • 8 years ago

    RE: redsilver

    Also trying to figure out what you mean by arch door with the arch top?

    I think what you are referring to is a deadbolt lock? We have had sidelights since the house was built 1994, and so far no deadbolt needed. A Deadbolt is always a concern if you want to get out of the house and don't have the key readily available.

    We do have a push-button combination lock on our back kitchen door, might think on getting the same compatible lock via the same company for our back door and front door. We wanted the whole house to work on the same key and same combination, which currently since 2016 when my husband replaced all the locks, they do. We plan to take the new locks, handles etc off the old door and use them for the new doors since they were recently purchased and expensive when purchased.

    Here are a few versions of sidelights I could choose. I'll put one per post so anyone can click like at which they like most :)


  • 8 years ago

    This glass is called Arcadia.

    I left the 4 panel door but thinking I will do the 6 panel since all inside doors throughout the house are colonial 6-panel white doors



  • 8 years ago
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    This glass is called Avonlea. The leaf is a clear copper kind of color glass that would seem to match the color of the wood look fiberglass door

  • 8 years ago

    this one is called Cambridge

  • 8 years ago
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    this one is called Longford

  • 8 years ago

    this one is called Lucerna


  • 8 years ago

    This is ArborWatch


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    Concorde



  • 8 years ago

    Crystalline

  • 8 years ago

    Wellsesley


  • 8 years ago

    The door top of the 3 that you commented, '...still has the arch but no glass'..to answer your query above. That was a pretty nice pattern of raised panels. & I love the Avonlea sidelights. Why? Stained glass, even psuedo, or Faux ? always gets my interest peaked, and also, it is so organic and opposite of what is going on in the door panels. So it does not compete with them in vertical or horizontal spacing.

  • 8 years ago
    thanks redsilver. The Avonlea is on my top 3 list. In the photo the glass looks more white, when actually is a wavy clear baroque glass that is coincidentally the wavy glass i have for some of my dish storage new kitchen cabinets we installed a couple months ago.
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    so, is this what you meant?

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  • 8 years ago

    The second pic also looks a lot better because the framing around the side lights is dark like the door -- not a solid mass of white all around a dark door.

    diyher thanked suezbell
  • 8 years ago

    I like the Avonlea side lights. They're a softer pattern that compliments the rectangular brick. I also voted for the door with the half moon fanlite with clear glass. As you stated, it repeats the pattern of the windows. But I'm not a designer, so what do I know? Ha-ha!

    diyher thanked 50s_ranch Andres
  • 8 years ago
    here is how I plan to decorate the inside of the front door. I bought it at a local antique shop. They gave it to me for half the asking price. I will sand and paint it to match the trimwork. I got lucky, because it is the width of the 36 inch door and 2 14inch sidelights and the 4 inch door trim on both sides.
    After I paint it, I'm going to have the local glass shop put a mirror.
    I think it will help reflect more light on the room and give somewhat of an illusion of being a door header lol.
  • 8 years ago
    ok, did some copy paste to get the wood stained trim around the door
  • 8 years ago
    and the arched door
    I like to be different than the others in the neighborhood. :-)
  • 8 years ago

    Like this wood framing w/wood finish all around but not the door itself:

    diyher


    FYI: That six panel door is, supposedly, a cross-and-bible design -- very common in the Bible Belt for interior bedroom doors; NOT a fan for a front entry door.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=cross+and+bible+door&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=i6C1rycOJCA8IM%253A%252CR-EYu6HXheR6aM%252C_&usg=_U5NNzXUnO1-owVnsd5EFbgJK-bg%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi8kbvp4u_bAhUCUa0KHbZ3D3MQ9QEINTAG#imgrc=&spf=1529962607771


    Although I also like wood door with the pointed arc carved in the door, if you're going to add your mirror/arc decoration above the door, inside or out, you probably don't want two entirely different arc shapes.


    diyher thanked suezbell
  • 8 years ago

    never heard of the 6 panel door being a cross and bible design. The 6 panel door is always considered a colonial door. You see them all over the country, not just in the South :) My whole house has 6 panel doors inside and out except for the garage and kitchen which has glass. I did a search and found it to be debunked https://historymyths.wordpress.com/tag/cross-and-bible-doors/

  • 8 years ago

    I think even though I like the arch shape on that door, I'll just stick with the 6 panel door since the style of the outside of my house is supposed to be considered Federal Style, and all my inside doors are 6 panel except for my study off the foyer that are double doored 9 lites

  • 8 years ago

    Well, I think it can mean whatever anyone wants it too. I like the vine colored glass with your brick. I like the sidelights frame and door frame stained. With the vine sidelights, I think you can choose the door you like best, really. I too have 6 panel doors and got the thermatru model that had an extra bevel edge on the perimeter of each of the 6 panels. We went ahead and painted it white because of the heat on the west exposure. With your home, the stain matches the brick tones and the vine design colored glass is in the similar family. It also softens the home lines which are very structured, much in the way I love oval glass insets in doors when I see them. It's so nice to have choices that are just not what one would first expect to see, and make your home your own creation. I just love the vine sidelights!!

    diyher thanked redsilver
  • 8 years ago

    redsilver, do you know the Thermatru model that had an extra bevel edge on the perimeter of each of the 6 panels.? I did notice online it shows different 6 panel doors with different order numbers but from the photo online, I couldn't tell if they had different panel style. I think I'd like the one that has more details like your door just to make it distinctive :)

    We had to also replace our laundry room to the garage door and that was picked up at I think Lowes or Home Depot and it has the same 6 panel detail you mentioned.

  • 8 years ago

    I like the oval glass too but I'm seeing so many of them in our neighborhood now that I just don't want to be another door like everyone else. The other door style many of the others have are the half glass square doors. It works on their style of house, but not ours. There were 4 model houses built in our development. Each model had 4 or 5 styles, some being colonial brick, stucco, siding, or a combination.


  • 8 years ago

    this is what it would look like with the oval. The only problem is with the front door having glass this size, it makes it not as private as the standard 6 panel.


  • 8 years ago

    hmm, just saw someone that has an arched style Therma-Tru door but the other doors in the house are 6 panel. Their door doesn't have sidelights though

    Classic-Craft Rustic door · More Info

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    I would recommend going to your real Therma Tru door company... FC-60 Fiber Classic Craft Oak Collection would be ours, but they have a similar one with a steel edge now, not sure that it is a stained option to order. That one may be only in paint finish??. I think the Rustic Clay finish is about the tone of stain you are considering..https://www.thermatru.com/   Maybe their website will offer you more options to look thru than the stores have on hand, certainly... We have no glass, and it is 6 panel door as you showed above.

    diyher thanked redsilver
  • 8 years ago

    diyher It's like "clouds": some people see only clouds; others see shapes of other things.

    In the bible belt, there have long been efforts to make EVERYTHING about religion while thoughtful, logical thinking people continue to try to debunk myths. Our bible belt politics … but that is a subject for another forum. I mention it only so you can be aware that others may see your choice as significant -- perhaps the ones that see unicorns and angels in the clouds.

    I like the doors with a dozen or so square raised panels on them and/or a small view window about eye high -- but to each their own.