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8 years ago

I had posted previously looking for pink climbers for my pool fence. I bought pretty in pink Eden this weekend and then changed my mind and decided to go with white or blush climbing roses instead. I’m going to put salvia or nepeta running all along the bottom. What are some big beautiful David Austin type roses that are good repeat climbers? And would you do all the same rose along the fence or would it look okay to try different ones? I’ve figured out I need 5. The nursery where I need to bring back PIP eden also had white Eden, think thats a good choice??


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  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Eden doesn't repeat well, just sporadically for cooler climates. Heritage is a short pale pink climber from David Austin. The Generous Gardener is even paler. Both have great scent. Heritage repeats decent for me but it's my first year growing TGG so I'm not sure how well it will repeat. Kordes Honeymoon Arbor produces lots of palest apricot, really more blush white, blooms, is super hardy and very vigorous and repeats nicely throughout the season. Little to no scent though if that is a consideration. . Kordes Kiss Me Kate has beautiful pink blooms and is supposed to have a great scent. Mine is new this year, grafted from Palatine. It hasn't flowered yet but is loaded with buds and very healthy so far. Compassion has peach blend flowers and repeats often, healthy foliage and a lovely scent. It's not cane hardy for me though but I'm z5b so it might work for you. As a first year own root rose I had 4 flushes of blooms so she repeats quickly. Lady Ashe, a Biltmore rose, has peachy pink flowers, very cold tolerant and great scent. Only my second year with her as own root but she's doing great. Nahema has pale pink blooms, is a bit tender here, but they smell amazing and repeat is decent. All About Roses website states "Nahema produces literally masses of highly fragrant and deeply cupped pale, China pink blooms in profusion throughout the season. The flowers are sensational to use in flower arrangements because of their durability in the vase and as the petals drop, the perfume remains scattered around the base of the vase – a sight to behold!

    The foliage of Nahema is most unusual in that the leaves have a tendency to recurve which in any other rose might be a sign that the rose is too dry. This quirky difference makes Nahema readily identifiable and despite this habit, the foliage is very strong and disease resistant."

    There might be more that would work in your warmer climate but these are good performers for me in my no spray, limited sun Massachusetts garden.

    sharon

    Jaime 7a NY thanked enchantedrosez5bma
  • 8 years ago

    Wow, you’ve given me so much to look at and consider, thank you!!

  • 8 years ago

    Cathy, your pics are incredible!!

  • 8 years ago

    Enchanted- I too planted TGG this year and desperately waiting for buds. Honeymoon was something I wa just looking at and oh my goodness nahema is stunning!!

  • 8 years ago

    So sad to hear white Eden doesn’t repeat well. It was the easiest choice since a local nursery sells it, bummer

  • 8 years ago

    Jaime, If you have black spot pressure I wouldn't recommend Iceburg or Zephrine Druhan. Both were bs magnets for me in our high humidity summers and ZD is pretty much a once bloomer but she does have a lovely scent. New Dawn is pretty much a once bloomer too with little scent plus she gets huge and has wicked thorns. I have Rosanna, another Kordes, but new this year so I'm not sure how repeat will be. No scent though.

    If you google the rose name along with gardenweb, houzz or rose forum like "David Austin Heritage rose gardenweb" it will bring up discussions of the various roses you're considering ref. height, repeat, scent, health, winter hardiness and vigor. Nippstress (Cynthia) is zone 5 and has an extensive list of the roses she has good luck with and the growing conditions; full sun, part sun, part shade, etc. She's pretty militant too; if the rose doesn't perform well out it goes!

    sharon

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Kathy, your roses and garden are magnificent. Are you sure you don't live in a public rose garden? You should be charging admission! Is there any place I could look for those rose's ID. I adore climbers!

    I have to disagree about ND being a once bloomer. Mine JUST finish a magnificent flush which I deadheaded just about 2 weeks ago and here is a small picture of all the developing buds. I hope you can zoom in to see them. She is a thorny thing, but so are many of my climbers. There's always Awakening if you want a fuller flower. Madame Alfred Carriere is another pretty blush one as are many of the Hybrid Musks such as Felicia and Bubble Bath, but their repeat may not be as good. I just got Prosperity and am already in love. If you don't mind thorns Aloha and Blossomtime have very good repeat and fragrance. Are you only interested in large-flowered climbers?

  • 8 years ago

    I have new dawn and it’s been repeating well in its second year.

    Doesnt really have to be a large flower but something white and really pretty. It’s the view from my kitchen window so I’ll be starring at it all day

  • 8 years ago

    Kathy, your garden is beautiful. I am so glad I saw it and truly enjoyed it. A dream garden and your roses are mouth dropping gorgeous. I wish, I knew their names. I don't have any climbers but one, Peggy Martin.

    Jaime, good thread. I can pick up some pointers too :)

    Jin

  • 8 years ago

    Jin, if you go to Cathy's pics and hover over the photo the rose name comes up.

    Vaporvac- That's great. Seems like your rose midge problem is under control. New Dawn doesn't repeat for me. There was a huge one at a local nursery and their's didn't repeat either. But a google search revealed this from P. Allen Smith "Repeat flowering roses like ‘New Dawn’ bloom on second year canes for the spring flush and then repeat flower on new wood. I’ve never been very disciplined about deadheading my ‘New Dawn’, but many gardeners have good results getting ‘New Dawn’ to bloom again when they deadhead or remove the spent flowers to encourage new growth...Repeat-blooming climbing roses such as ‘New Dawn’ can bloom for many years on the same older canes. Eventually, if the roses decline in vigor, allow new canes to grow and replace the old ones."

    I never deadheaded mine. That apparently makes the difference.

    sharon

  • 8 years ago

    Mortimer Sackler is a beautiful taller growing Austin with good repeat bloom and strong, sweet fragrance. It has a graceful arching growth habit.