I’m still learning with my own climbers and can’t really offer much advice but I can suggest the Paul Zimmerman YouTube videos on how to train a climber. Really great informative videos that are easy to understand.

I agree. I'm new to roses and have gotten a LOT of helpful info from Paul Zimmeran's videos. My husband and I don't have any of the specific varieties that you've asked about so I'm really no help on their typical growth.

However here's a link to one video that talks about pruning climbers throughout the year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf7F5qhChFM

Not sure where I will do this yet, but I also especially liked this one on Pillaring a Climbing Rose: https://paulzimmermanroses.com/gardening/training-roses/pillaring-a-climbing-rose/

I really like your idea with your Hot-N-Spicy climbers. I think this may be a good solution for our Teasing Georgia. It is in a wide bed. There is a trellis behind it to help hold things up, but I'd also like for it to be more full in the front.

We have an Alexander Mackenize that I'm probably not training as horizontal as I should at this point. I've read training canes horizontal is best for maximum flowers. However the space that this rose is in needs something more vertical; it is in the back of a bed against the house. As we bought it only last year, I'm thinking I'll training it to a good height first and then work on the horizontal.

Shannon :-)

The only rose you mentioned which I have experience with is Lady Banks - is yours white or yellow? Anyway, I would not recommend pegging it - it throws out long very flexible canes. If you want it to grow into the tree and also along the fence, just wait until it starts producing long canes, and then train some of them up the tree and others along the fence. One thing, this rose loves heat, so if I were you I would plant it so it has a Southern exposure and some shelter from the wind in your zone 7a winters.

Jackie

I'll take pictures of the climbers, but I used some landscape staples to pin a few long canes to the ground.

They are growing like a groundcover right now.

The canes close to the trellis, I tie off as soon as they can reach, then tie them to each horizonal bar along the row. When they get to the end I let it grow up a couple inches, then pull them horizonally again the direction from which they came originally so it's a very tight S shape back and forth across the trellis.

That's a lot. Hopefully the pictures I post later will explain it better than I could.

Thank you, Jackie.

It's a white Lady Banks. I think the spot should have good wind protection because the wind typically comes from the other side of the fence and this would be on the SE side of it.

Based on no pegging, I'm thinking I should just let it be until the canes reach 6-10ft, then tie them to the tree and/or fence? Is there anything wrong with just letting it go nuts until it gets long enough?

Not anything wrong with that - that is what I always do. Luckily for you you are not in a really warm zone - my yellow lady banks here is 3 stories up our house, and about 15 feet wide the whole way. I believe the white is a bit less rampant, and will also be smaller in your climate.

Jackie

Thank you! I believe I’ve seen pictures of yours before on here- it’s incredible!

I seem to recall that you use industrial grade support systems as well?

These are the two climbers. I tried to use the paint tool to show which directions I’m pegging/training them.

Here’s the baby crepuscule.

Wondering if I should put in a small trellis against the fence for it to grow up?

This one has thrown some really long canes, but they very well-branched as you can see. It might be a good candidate for pegging?

Thanks for posting!

Now I definitely want to train it upwards and peg too. I might treat it exactly like these climbers I posted above.

I'm perfectly happy if it wants to grow tall and wide. A monster bush would be great in this spot. I just didn't want it to be 2ft tall and 10ft wide for its first couple of years.

I'm concerned it might struggle during winter winds and no snowfall though.

I’m not sure with you being in 7, but this one survived our freak cold snap with a week of nights in the teens, which surprised me. Just a 5-6” layer of tree mulch over it. It was about half that size by January.

My replacements for the 3 Crepuscule I killed earlier this spring have arrived.

2 labeled Crepuscule

1 labeled Lady Banksia White

1 labeled DBL Banksia White

What is the difference between those last two?

Also, if the soil in their pots is still very damp, should I skip watering for a bit?

I received mine yesterday. They were so soak. I skip watering when I transferred last night. It was so wet. This morning I did not water. I did finger check. No need to water but tomorrow , is a different story. I am watering all my roses before I go to work.

Jin

Thank you, Jin! I don’t think I will plant these until next spring so I need to be really careful to not let them dry out.

Can I confine Lady Banks to this general corner area until I let it spill over the top of the fence onto the other side?

I’d like to get her up that small maple tree but am concerned it would be harder to keep in check out in the open.

My options are outside the fence or inside in this corner.

Any thoughts or is it just personal preference?

Inside:

I will probably hack it down and transplant it when we move in the next couple/few years.

It likes sun. The sunniest spot might suit the rose best.

Both spots get over 6 hours of sun during the summer.

Inside is probably 8-10 hours and outside is likely 9-12 hours.

My new neighbors have TONS of TERRIBLE lawn art, so I might plant it on the outside to try and distract from all that.

There is a wroght iron snowman in their side yard right now. It's June.

I grew all three LBs in CA; they are real sun-chasers! They’ll grow in the direction of the sun (as will many climbers.) It seemed like the best bloom was always on the SW side.

And they'll eat that snowman for breakfast, and never look back. :-)

Should I actually plant these in the ground now? Still in their pots?

I’m nervous to misstep since I killed $80 worth of roses last time.

jc - your neighbor's lawn art made me laugh :o) Maybe a hedge planting is in order?

Is there something wrong with my 2 new Crepuscule? They shipped last Monday and arrived Wednesday. Packed well and the soil was still moist.

I actually planted them DURING a rainstorm so I don’t think lack of water is an issue. Plus, they have more or less looked just like this since arrival.

2 new ones have really light/yellow leaves compared to the other then has been in the ground since late April

I think they will be fine. The new bands can look like that. The new leaves they eventually grow will be normal color.

My climbers are going berserk.

That fence is 6ft tall. Not sure if you can tell, but there are 5-10 very think and healthy canes coming straight from ground up to 3/4ft.

If you plant a "Lady Banks" rose next to a tree, and give it a little time to grow long canes, it will climb the tree. On its own.

Thanks, Jeri!

I did end up planting a Lady Banks about 8ft from a tree. One of these fence corners separates the tree from the Lady Banks, so my hope* is that it will grow up into the corner and climb into the tree once it spills over the top of the fence.

It has already thrown out 1 cane that is about 4ft long.

JC, look at your roses. They are growing huge. Wow, I just can't wait for them to blossom. They look so healthy and happy. Great job :)

Jin

Wow they do look so happy and healthy there! I can’t wait for you to share blooming pics !

I have no clue when they will bloom. This is their first year so I think I read that climbers bloom their 3rd season?

I am really pleased that their foilage looks so great all the time though.

I was looking for a different thread, but for anyone curious, the "Hot-N-Spicy" climbers I got as body bags at Walmart (the ones in these photos) were actually Florentina.