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Is it a milkweed or a.....

8 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago

Is this a milkweed or something else. It popped up in a dense 4" pot of 12 small Echeandea texensis. It kind of looks like a milkweed. I did use reused dirt to thin out the Echiandia, so it could have been in the reused dirt. The pot it is in is a 2.5" pot or so. I probably know what it is . It looks familiar but I am drawing a blank.



Comments (45)

  • 8 years ago

    It could be. It also reminds me that tall salvia I can't remember its name. I'll check mine's tag tomorrow.

    Omar

  • 8 years ago

    Salvia leucantha?

  • 8 years ago

    No, I think S. leucantha is more silverish, Annie, but I think there is another one. I'll report tomorrow.

    Omar

  • 8 years ago

    I say no to milkweed.

  • 8 years ago

    Are you thinking Salvia penstemonoides? That comes up as more of a rosette.

  • 8 years ago

    I do have a lot of A asperula around. That has pointed leaves. I can't seem to find any babies. It has been a dry year, bad for natural germination.

  • 8 years ago
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    Did you break a leaf tip to see if the sap bleeds white profusely? Looks like something in Asclepias to me. And if you ever have extra asperula seed, I’d love some!

  • 8 years ago
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    It could be asperula which has milky sap. Looks like milkweed to me. Wish I could grow it here, but probably doable on the west coast. Macranthos, can you grow A. cryptoceras in your area?

  • 8 years ago

    Mm. Maybe. It’s probably too wet without special soil and protection. Although A cordifolia, latifolia, and solanoana can survive here without too much fuss.

  • 8 years ago

    Ok. I was wrong, Annie was right, but I think we are still wrong. How so? This morning I went to check on the tag of the salvia a recently purchased that I thought looked like Mara's seedling. It only said it was "Santa Barbara" Salvia. I noticed my plant was not that similar to Mara's seedling. I googled the name and the search came up as : Salvia leucantha.

    I was confused with Salvia madrensis. That one looks grayer. However, the leaves of S. leucantha do not look like Mara's seedling. Look at the picture.

    Omar

  • 8 years ago

    Salvias should have square stems.

  • 8 years ago

    I pinched the leaf tip an no milky sap, but the plant is still very small, so maybe it hasn't developed a leaf vein large enough to bleed like that.I did compare it to an adult and it does has many similarities and "feels " like a baby of it.

  • 8 years ago

    Not a surprise - I have a lot of experience at being both right and wrong at the same time.
    No one is suggesting weed names so whatever Mara's seedling is, it's probably worth keeping ;-)


  • 8 years ago
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    Omar, MY plant has no small rounded bumps on the margin, no pink on the stems. no indented secondary venation. I don't think that the stem on my plant is square either. I am not thinking salvia leucantha. they both have long arrow shaped leaves.

  • 8 years ago

    @ Macanthros, I looked out in my field and there were a few dried up pods that did not split and send their seeds flying.Some did but not all seeds left. It is about a month after the normal seed season. I don't know how good theses seeds are. They look good but a bit small. If you PM me your address, I can send them to you I see that your message thing is not turned on so I could not PM you.

  • 8 years ago
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    Wantonamara juanita wantonamara, did you check the stem for squareness as Carol suggested? You said you didn't think it was, but have you confirmed it? If they have fluff then they ride the wind.https://youtu.be/MRTC3cfWfGk

  • 8 years ago

    Yes I did and it is not square.

  • 8 years ago

    I just came from "King Feed", a nursery in Wimberley. They have some seedlings with some notes about Texas native milkweeds. They mentioned A. viridis and A. asperula, but the note didn't specify which one they were talking about. I forgot my phone at home so I couldn't take a picture, but the plants look very similar to Juanita wantonamara's plant. However, I ripped one leaf and I could see some sap coming out.

    Omar

  • 8 years ago

    Wantonamara, are you saying that your plants have already bloomed, set seed, and dehisced? Mine are just starting to bloom I cannot for the life of my find out where to PM you on this site, but I did theoretically turn on the ability to PM me...

  • 8 years ago

    Yes this milkweed have done all their deeds., Spring starts early in Central Texas and this milkweed is a spring flower. As for messaging. Click on my name here, and it will take you to my page . If you see vultures in congregation, you are on the right page. You will see something saying in the upper right corner saying "message" , click that and it should draw up a PM to me.

  • 7 years ago
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    OK , The plant did not bleed and it turn out not to be a milkweed. I am still scratching my head BUT it bloomed or it sibling bloomed. Any Ideas? I did not buy this plant . It might have hitchhiked on a trade . God only knows. Kinda cute. Fantamorgana was right . It was not a milkweed.

  • 7 years ago

    Osteospermun? Just a guess.


    Omar

    wantonamara Z8 CenTex thanked Vulture61
  • 7 years ago

    It is very small for that. I will photograph the bloom tomorrow.The petals look joined .

  • wantonamara Z8 CenTex thanked roselee z8b S.W. Texas
  • 7 years ago
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    Definitely not Osteospermum.

    just a thought. Did every flower look like that? Or just this one? And is the face on flower the same one which is side on in the top picture. If so it looks a bit as if there are two fused calyces. Could the flower be fasciated?

  • 7 years ago

    Is it my imagination, or did the leaves switch from opposite in the OP photo, to alternate in the last?

  • 7 years ago

    Good eyes!.. Harumph . I guess they are not sibs and are two different plants sorry about that. I am still wondering what it is.

  • 7 years ago

    Right. Forget the Caryophyllaceae if it’s alternate.

  • 7 years ago

    I've been looking at that first shot, and each time thinking that it looks like a baby Helianthus maximiliani. Yesterday, I was walking through fields of those with mature flowers, but also saw many new plants about the size of the one shown below. Those often start out with opposite leaves, which then become alternate as the plant matures.

    That said, I am notoriously (some would say famously) wrong when trying to identify seedlings. But at least it is one more thing to consider.

  • 7 years ago

    I don't think you're wide of the mark at all. Helianthus is a definite possibility. If not H. maxilimiliani then H. annuus et al.

  • 7 years ago

    I have a mystery plant as well. I bought some tropical milkweed plants, there was a tiny plant buried within the folds of the damp newspaper the milkweed was wrapped in. I put it in soil, and has responded very well. Looks nothing like tropical milkweed, is it a milkweed at all?




  • 7 years ago

    That one looks like a dock - Rumex species.

    For future reference you'll get more responses if you start a new post for a new plant. People may not click on an old thread, thinking they've already seen all they want to on a particular topic.

  • 7 years ago


    Wontonamara, Just had to post this photo. I looks just like my...……………..



    Helianthus Maxilimiliani.

  • 7 years ago
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    No, it doesn't (last post). Just very similar.

    I've grown both, as has Mara.

  • 7 years ago

    I have never grown H. maximiiana from seed. I usually collect it by ripping out stolons from the ground.. This tike grew more prostrate and had started to form flower or branch buds in the nodes, but since I manage to kill this little one of mine in the long hot summer, I will never know who he really is. This one will go down as one of those that slipped by......this time.

  • 7 years ago
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    Naah, it was almost certainly salvia leucantha or at least a close cousin.

    Oh wow, that's what I get by relying on memory, you posted a lovely pink blossom that certainly isn't a salvia (lol), nor a helianthus.

    It's cute at least...even if it did die.

  • 7 years ago

    My understanding was that the pink flowered plant was a red herring. Not the same as the first plant asked about at all.

  • 7 years ago

    I apologizing to getting you all misled with that red herring. It was hard when the original has died. I suspect that this thread is past its small test.. I thank every one for their efforts.

  • 7 years ago

    Speaking of current events, would it be correct to say you are currently NOT experiencing a water shortage Mara?

  • 7 years ago

    Mara, did you get a lot of rain from the hurricane?

  • 7 years ago

    No water shortage for awhile. I feel like I am permanently in a cloud. I think we had 17" in the last month. It is a jungle out there. Austin is experiencing a boil all water order. All flood gates are open and that was BEFORE the hurricane clouds got to us. Actually the heavier stuff is to the south and east off us this time. Just drizzle here. We missed out on the 12" downfall a week ago. by just a bit. It went to the west of us. I think we got 4" of rain with that one. The river just to the west is over the main road so the guys on the other side have to drive and hour out of the way to get out. The lake has backed up so the river is now a lake. Our droughts end with a rain event that can go on and on. We have been raining since the beginning of September. It is interminable. If I wanted to live in the PNW , I would have moved there.

  • 7 years ago
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    I read about the boil order. Seems like more of a monsoon weather pattern down there. We are getting rain too, but it doesn't matter. A hard freeze already killed everything. What river are you talking about, Bravos? Colorado?

  • 7 years ago

    The Pedernales . It is one of the main tributaries that feed into the Colorado. It hits Lake Travis, (the main water supply for Austin) The Llano River was the other one that really flooded into the Colorado. They both acted out. Sandy Creek also flooded.

  • 7 years ago

    Never a dull moment hah!