Another update! Demo is done, and we found some hidden space behind the back wall (due to a funky roof line).

the tentative plan now is to flip the layout and recess the bench in the slanted extra space, add a large hidden niche to the right of the bench, add a full wall next to the toilet, and move plumbing there. I don’t think plumbing on the back wall works, because the slant isn’t high enough to be able to comfortably stand there.

Thoughts?? Thrilled to find this extra space - in a teeny bathroom you need all you can get!

Love the idea, it bumps up your cost to move pipes. It's a great!

Framing update!

That is going to be a nice shower space!

Tile the entire room that way the whole space is a shower.

Jules, I'm very concerned your bench is going to be too small an area. You will have a seating surface, wall board and tile, all shrinking that space. It just looks troublesome to fold ones self into the area. Regardless, i hope you have planned a hand-held on the pony wall or some other close location to the bench. Please climb in that space and consider the loss of 3-4"+ of height and 1-2"+ of width.

That is going to be a nice shower. Glad you found thr extra space.

I would consider not doing built in bench. Tile is cold and can be slippery. Make shower as big as you can and buy teak shower bench. Much more usable. Frontgate is where i got ours. Have done the built in and wouldn’t do it again.

Is the window going to be a high small one?

Which window?

Following

There's more than one?

No there's only one, but it's pretty visible in the photo already - and is clearly not high and small?

A narrower window -- stopping it at the left edge of the radiator -- could give you a the full 29" inches along the exterior window wall for the faucet end of your tub/shower, enabling you to use the same supply and drain lines... or for whatever you put along that back wall. You don't really need a huge window in a bath. If/when you replace the window with a narrower one (same height) you , you could also choose frosted or at least tinted glass, giving you more privacy.

Even if you choose just a shower, you want it deep enough to be able to bend at the waist to wash your ankles.

You read my comment wrong. If window is near shower will u make it a high window?

Agree w/you on pony wall vs. full height wall. Wouldn't want to crowd the shower space w/built in bench but adding to the lower 16" or so of one back corner to have a place to rest your foot to wash your toes would be a good idea to consider as would including a safty hold bar attached to the wall on one side of the shower..

Happyleg - I’m sorry I still don’t understand what youre saying. Are you talking about the exterior window? There’s one window in the bathroom, and it’s not changing.

If you change your window from one three panes wide to one two panes wide and with frosted glass -- but keep the the same height for the natural light -- you'll have more space between wall and radiator for plumbing fixtures, thus a less "awkward space".

Just some thoughts about options:

A tub/shower combo can fit in a 28" deep space all along that back wall. By choosing an elongated taller narrower toilet, it should fit within a 28" deep space. That would leave you with 38" (by your 94" wall) for your vanity.

Alternately, if yuou put the faucets for your tub/shower (about 66" long) against the wall beside the door and the tub/shower against the 94" wall, you'd end up w/28"x71" (beyond the pony wall separating the tub/shower and toilet) in which to place a toilet and sink facing each other -- perhaps a pedastal sink -- about 18" deep for the sink and about 24" deep for the toilet with about 42" betrween them. If you could add a countertop over the radiator, your countertop for your vanity could extend about 4' -- stopping short of the open door -- and you could build in shelving over the toilet and sink and any part of that countertop that extends to the right of your window.

suezbell...this has all been hashed out preiously, just scroll back and see. That also includes a discussion on the window issue.

A vining, humidity loving plant would look fine. Or a wall display of a collection not sensitive to humidity, or a tall thin sculpture.

My inlaws have a short bath window. It is nice & whatever u want. Love frosted glass.

lol. People. I appreciate the suggestions, but read the whole discussion! The window can not and is not being changed, and the bathroom is already framed out.

Glass block is being removed in all old homes. Tudor or not!!! Use Sammy’s inspiration photo!

I give up.

From experience......do not get a standard
corner shower. VERY tight !!!!
We keep hitting the controls and end up freezing or scalding.

Jules M I read/skimmed the entire thread. and would make only one comment. Have you considered a wall mounted sink or floating vanity?

We lived in a 1950 ranch for 7 years, and did a LOT of work to bring it back to life. The bathrooms were on the back burner for a future gut rehab. When we moved in, we installed new toilets and replaced the dinky particle board vanities with cheap (commercial) Toto wall mount sinks. That small change really helped open the space in both rooms, such that we never felt the need to gut rehab before selling. Here are the listing pics:

This bathroom has no storage other than the Ikea mirror-front wall cab where we stored toilet paper, etc. DH used this bathroom, and would grab a towel from the hall linen closet on his way to the shower.

You know your needs best. Good luck, and I look forward to progress pics.

Jules, only give up on the posters, not the project!

People...please don't respond without understanding:

1) The design is pretty much finished and ain't gonna change significantly.

2) The work is underway, so at this point, colors and finishes are about all that's up for thought...and Jules hasn't asked us about either.

Don't give up...I am hoping for further updates.

I'm just giving up on other posters, not the renovation :-) It's a little too far underway for me to turn back now, and I'm loving how it's shaping up so far.

Please keep posting. I can’t wait to see how it turns out.

Yes we all like to see the finish. I know the window was settled, just seeing if u changed your mine. We women do this. It's free here. Sorry if it's me too.

I realize you “gave up” in the end, or perhaps a better analogy would be “threw in the towel” given it’s a bathroom, but I would be interested to know how you dealt with the radiator. Somewhere in the long scroll of posts, you mentioned possibly installing a panel radiator and North Texas suggested the possibility of an integrated radiator towel warmer. Did you end up going with either one? I’m considering similar options for our small babathroom renovation. Unlike you we didn’t uncover any hidden space. :(

The bathroom isn't quite done yet - another few weeks! - but we ended up removing the radiator and adding a toe kick heater under the vanity. We are installing a slim Hudson Reed panel radiator in another bathroom. I can share both photos when they're done!

Thank you so much for getting back to me! Our GC also suggested a toe kick. Would love to see photos when you are done.

I’m glad you stuck to your guns about the window. An historical Tudor needs some respect, and some of the window ideas would ruin the front look of your house.
I hope you donated the old tub intact so someone else in an old house can use it. Glad you found some space when you demo’d!
Can’t wait to see the finished product. I’m assuming you’ve chosen everything by now.
(And, yes, it’s frustrating when people come in at the end and don’t read the whole thread.)

I popped in yesterday to check on progress - here’s the new shower book/bench being tiled!

It’s turning out beautifully!

Yikes, check for lippage before the grout gets done! Grab a couple of those tiles and lay them on a flat surface and see how flat they are...of place two face to face and see if you can wibble the top one. With a 50% overlap, lippage will be maximized.

Also, what waterproofing is being used? I don't see any, and concrete board is NOT a waterproof item.

I now see why you elected the seat back in the discovered area, looks plenty spacious!

^^ I'm not sure of the technical terms, but there is plastic sheeting under the permabase (i.e., sandwiched between the cement board and the studs/insulation), and I believe they are also using kerdi membrane on the corners. I'm going to check today so I'll investigate.

So, they are letting the cementboard get wet with a membrane on the otherside? The cementboard overlaps the showerpan waterproofing, cause I don't see the pan waterproofing...but I'm no expert.

It's my understanding that permabase with waterproofing on the inside in an acceptable waterproofing method.

I don't think the cement board overlaps - that gray strip at the bottom isn't cement board, but a temporary board to keep the tiles level.

The experts on this site have said that plastic sheeting under the cementboard is a valid waterproofing method when done right.

Thanks, Nancy, I'd heard so many horror stories of cementboard only waterproofing, I was a bit worried. Sorry for the concern, Jules, hope it's going swimmingly,,,so to speak! Glad you found a radiator solution, I think this bathroom is gonna come out great!

HI Jules M. I am wondering how you like the toe kick heater in the bathroom?

Jules M , how did this turn out?

Is the project done? Some of us are waiting with bated breath.

Jules M, I have no idea why this popped in my head but just dying to know how this ended up.

Updates?

I’m taking out the tub and putting in a makeup counter under the window next to the walk in shower, like this picture below