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HVX or something else?

The hosta I purchased last year from my horticultural society does not look like it did last year. I was pretty sure it was a Sum and Substance. Seeing it this year, I wouldn't recognize it to be a S&S. So the end of the gardening season is soon upon us. Shall I just throw it out? I would really like to know what happened to this hosta. Doesn't look like typical HVX to me. I am guessing severe frost damage to the crown. But, heck if I know.

It's the one on the right. (June 25th)



It's the one on the left. (July 26th)



Sept. 2nd

Comments (16)

  • 8 years ago

    A couple of close ups from today (Sept. 2nd)

  • 8 years ago

    You could wait until next spring and test the plant. HVX is dormant this time of year, and doesn't generally show as positive when a plant it tested. Since it's potted, I would feel comfortable waiting until next spring to see how it looks then.

    Be aware that S&S from big box stores is widely infected with HVX, I've seen hundreds of examples, both in the stores and in gardens.

    newhostalady Z6 ON, Canada thanked dhaven
  • 8 years ago

    Could it have anything to do with S&S being a giant hosta and you having it in a tiny pot? Note that your other S&S didn't bloom but this one did.

    newhostalady Z6 ON, Canada thanked gardencool
  • 8 years ago

    Gardencool- It takes many years for a "giant hosta" to grow to size. Every hosta I have ever grown whether mini or large needs to be put in a pot that just contains the roots. Anything larger will result in too wet situations and rot. I found that out by putting Komodo Dragon in a too large pot, figuring it would grow big really fast. It didn't. Why do you think that bloom determines health?

    Naylorcreek often sends two plants, especially if it is a new intro. Of the many I have ordered from then, I have never had two behave the same. Good strong tcs and not so good tcs. Even tho they are supposed to be clones, some are more vigorous than others. And the tcs need to be grown a few years to make sure they are true to type...as hostas sport all the time. That is why there are so many new ones being introduced.

    A Euro lab tcs a hosta and proclaims a new white edged whatever. Also a US tc lab intros a white edged whatever. They are probably the same sports now with different names. Like Blue Ivory and Great Escape, Justine and June Spirit, and many, many others.

    -Babka

    newhostalady Z6 ON, Canada thanked Babka NorCal 9b
  • 8 years ago

    "Why do you think that bloom determines health?" Well, after many years of observation I've noticed that healthy plants bloom MUCH better than unhealthy plants. Maybe too much bad weed for you!

    newhostalady Z6 ON, Canada thanked gardencool
  • 8 years ago

    Gardencool- RELAX. (and I don't care for your snarky remark). I am entitled to my opinion as you are. I only grow hostas in pots here. I don't have the space or the temps to put them into the ground. When I tried that they dwindled. So I only speak to hostas in POTS. The poster was referring to the hostas in POTS.

    Just about ALL the hostas on the market are from TCs. This has everything to do with that. Some are filtered out better than others. They all don't come out the door true to form. The dedicated hosta growers will grow them out from tcs and make sure they are true to form. Other places will just sell all the tcs they get. Some are better than others.

    If you will look at registrations, you will see that the European and US will often register hostas that are sports from the same plant as I explained previously.

    -Babka



    newhostalady Z6 ON, Canada thanked Babka NorCal 9b
  • 8 years ago
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    Gardencool, I find your comments to be rude and disrespectful. (Comments were removed). I do want your opinion and the opinion of others. But I think one can get their point across by just saying that they do not agree with a comment and why.

    Both you Gardencool and Babka are in different growing zones. What works for one may not for the other. We all want to do what works and most of us want to learn to do better.

    As for my hosta, I don't think it is in a pot that is too small. I grow many hosta in pots. If a hosta is not in the right sized pot, I find the ones in pots (too large) tend to eventually have root rot. Those that have been in too small a pot to do better than those in pots too large.

    As for the two S&S and the blooming---the healthier S&S did bloom---it just bloomed later. The unhealthy S&S probably bloomed earlier because it was in a pot from last year. And we know that pots awaken earlier in the spring than hosta in the ground. The healthier hosta was just purchased this year. It was a division from a mature plant in ground. And we had a cold spring and everything emerged later than usual.

  • 8 years ago

    I would hang on to it until next year, especially since its in a pot.

    A couple of years ago I had a Gold Standard that looked horrible. I knew it wasn't HVX since it was a very old plant, but it sure looked like it. I never did figure out what the problem was, but the next year it came up without a flaw and its been fine ever since.

    Unless it really bugs you, you have nothing to lose by waiting until spring.

    newhostalady Z6 ON, Canada thanked jamie81
  • 8 years ago

    That's interesting Jamie. Part of me says throw it out. The other part says keep it and see what happens next year.

    Okay. I'll keep it! Hopefully it will make it through the winter and spring. I'll try to post a followup next year.

  • 8 years ago
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  • 8 years ago

    Found this photo recently:

    (photo taken from http://www.greenhouse.cornell.edu/pests/gallery/hostasumtrv.htm


    and look at my hosta to compare:

    I think this may be the Tobacco Rattle Virus! I think I should throw it out!

  • 8 years ago

    Boy, I sure don't like the looks of that. You have so many more beautiful hostas that I can see not wanting to keep this one around.

    newhostalady Z6 ON, Canada thanked sandyslopes z6 n. UT
  • 8 years ago

    Looks like a candidate for the landfill. You’ll feel better if you toss it.

    newhostalady Z6 ON, Canada thanked zkathy z7a NC
  • 8 years ago

    Garbage collection coming today. Off it goes!

    Since this hosta was sold at our horticultural society`s meeting (and was a division, that means it came from someone`s garden. Sure would love to see what the rest of it looks like.

  • 8 years ago

    Sad to lose one but -- that sunken tissue ugh. Far better to be safe than sorry.

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