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How to winter care roses? Hardy Zone 6b

8 years ago

I live in NJ, hardy zone 6b. I have planted few bare root roses in May. They have grown well and have given roses in the first season. What preparation should I to protect them from winter? I have hear to mound soil and much up to crown of the rose. Our soil is full of clay, will it be a good idea to add a layer compost or manure at the bottom of the mound? I did added manure and peat moss to the soil while planting roses.


Comments (15)

  • 8 years ago

    I am not sure all that is necessary, vj. That heavy soil piled on could be too wet and give the roses canker. More will chime in from your area hopefully.

    vj_meghani thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 8 years ago

    I agree with Sheila about potential hazards of heavy soil as a mounding mulch. Maybe someone else has different experience. Mine is one zone below yours and what so far worked for me was to mound about one foot of pine bark mulch around the base. These are small nuggets and easy to remove in spring.

    vj_meghani thanked vesfl (zone 5b/6a, Western NY)
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I agree with vesf

    I'm in zone 6a and what worked for me was to wrap a big paper bag (like 12-18 inches tall) around the base of the rose. This acts as a bowl for the mulch and help with wind damage. Dump in about 12 inches of mulch :) I also do not prune my roses as winter preparation, as in colder climates this leads to the rose attempting to make new growth and using energy. Instead you can get this drying spray that will help the leaves fall off but not harm the plant. When the leaves come off it helps prevent spreading diseases/funguses etc.

    Hopefully Moses will chime in since he's the one who gave me this great advice last year.

    If you have hybrid teas I would suggest even a little extra protection, I lost a few last year and was devastated.

    vj_meghani thanked Kali C
  • 8 years ago

    Do nothing. Step away from the roses. So long as the bud union is properly buried beneath soil, more roses die from winter protection around here than from winter.

    vj_meghani thanked mad_gallica (z5 Eastern NY)
  • 8 years ago

    I am gardening in zone 6a and 5b, I just make sure the bud union of each rose is covered with mulch or soil before the winter.

    vj_meghani thanked summersrhythm_z6a
  • 8 years ago

    Moses, you are a lot drier during the winter than NJ. Trust me, it isn't at all the same. You don't get the nor'easter weather off the Atlantic where it is relatively warm and rainy for days. The only way to keep something dry is to put a roof over it.

    vj_meghani thanked mad_gallica (z5 Eastern NY)
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    rssweather.com puts the average annual precipitation for New Jersey at 47 inches/year. For Pennsylvania, where, I live, rssweather.com states 43 inches/year on average.

    That's a 4 inch difference a year, or 1/3" difference a month. Both NJ and PA experience less precipitation during fall and winter than during spring and summer at about the same rate. So there is even a smaller difference than 1/3" during the winterization period. Therefore, is less than 1/3" inch difference per month significant?

    MY reason for responding to VJ's inquiry was to help assist a fellow rose gardener in eliminating as much winter kill as possible. I outlined my approach to rose winterization in detail so as to be as helpful as possible. My approach is one that works for me, and I see no reason why it should not work for VJ as well.

    I am sure the numerous ways of getting roses successfully through winter will be investigated thoroughly by VJ, and that a selection from among them will be made that best suits VJ.

    Moses

    vj_meghani thanked Moses, Pitt PA, cold W & hot-humid S, z6
  • 8 years ago

    All great advice and learned a lot. Thanks all.

    Moses I am off to find pine bark mulch, already have paper bags. :)

  • 8 years ago

    I live on the Great Lakes where it is damp all of the time and I have to agree with Mad. We also don't get the reliable snow cover we used to get so the roses are pretty much bare all winter. I stopped burying and mulching etc. several years ago and have found that my roses actually do better for it. I do agree that you shouldn't prune anything in the fall. If something is very tall and will whip around in winter winds find a way to stake it rather than cut it back.

  • 8 years ago

    This isn't a thought experiment where it should work, so all opinions are equal. This is a real life, it doesn't work. Given that most newbie rosarians are of the opinion that the more fuss the better, it can take years to get it through their heads that the reason their roses are struggling so much with winter is because of things they are doing. Since one of the major purposes of this forum is to help people, I don't understand the insistence on doing things that aren't productive.

    When I grew roses west of the Appalachians, my experience with winter protection was that it was harmless. It didn't do any good, but it also didn't do any harm. East of the Appalachians, it is different. We can argue about what exactly is the difference, but it does exist.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Mad Gallica,

    You are the one insisting that your way is the right way. Just present your method, as you have, and allow VJ to decide what direction to take.

    Moses

  • 5 years ago

    Hello fellow rose gardeners! My name is Cherrie and I live in zone 6B in northern NJ (Kinnelon, NJ so we're in higher elevation). Please advise, should I use a root stimulator on the roses that I planted in August? I bought root stimulator then, but have been too busy until now, Or as it's now September 29th and we run risk of a light frost in 3-4 weeks, should I hold off on root stimulator until the spring? Thank you

  • 5 years ago

    In zone 5b michigan, I do nothing to protect my roses aside from normal mulching. None have died so far.

  • 5 years ago

    It depends on the kind of roses you are growing. Many need no protection, some, like hybrid teas, may need a lot.

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