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Confirming Elegans

This hosta was given to us 4 to 5 years ago. It's Elegans, right?

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  • 8 years ago

    i dont think so .. ken

  • 8 years ago
    Any suggestions on what it might be, Ken?
  • 8 years ago

    I would need to see a pic in spring or early summer, preferably with blooms. Until then, I would say 'Elegans' is likely but not confirmed.

  • 8 years ago

    Clicked on this link expecting Ken to say "Confirming Elegans is like confirming pornography." Oh well, maybe next time.

  • 8 years ago

    yup.. i know it when i see it .....


    but then.. im only presuming what i had was elegans .... i presume you have all heard my screed on that topic .... [actually its basically at the top of the elegans library page


    to my eye.. its not thick enough ... round enough.. nor blue enough ...[ but it is september... so color is problematic ] ... nor corrugated/pebbled enough ... compare at library ...to try to see what i mean ... it just shouldnt be ridged like that ... and of course .... maturity matters in all those aspects ...

    http://www.hostalibrary.org/e/e.html


    agree flower height would help with confirmation ...


    ken

  • 8 years ago

    Hard to tell at this time of the year. I would love to see the flower raceme. I don't think Elegans based on mine. Could it be Blue Angel?

  • 8 years ago

    I have a lot of big blue hostas. When I see one of mine with round leaves, I always say that's one of my Elegans. I have 6. The shape actually reminds me a bit of a lily pad. It's also a fast grower, for a big hosta variety.

  • 8 years ago
    The thing that confused me is I just don't see much blue in it. Also, it's been there at least 4 years. That is still considered immature?
  • 8 years ago

    it took my elegans about 8 years ... to mature ... then i moved .. dug it up.. and it never recovered.. lol ..


    yours does not look mature at all .. and i cant explain why ...


    any chance at blue umbrellas ... do you have any clues ... ken

  • 8 years ago

    Does it make a lot of seedlings? The Elegans I have is not positively ID'd but every time I have shown it here along with the story that it makes a lot of seedlings seems to make people say Elegans. Here it is:

    And here is one of its seedlings

  • 8 years ago

    I don't know what else to say. It was one of those situations where a lady my husband works with wanted to get rid of some hostas in her yard. So, he went over and dug a bunch up. They seemed like common varieties to me and then there was this one. It has to be 4 years at least in this spot.



  • 8 years ago

    It looks like a floppy Krossa Regal of sorts. Odd.

  • 8 years ago

    Yeah- I’m really not qualified to comment, and this may sound rather sophomoric, but I gotta say it doesn’t look like Elegans to me. Two reasons: the leaves look more pointy than they should, and- it doesn’t take my breath away. I know there are a lot more “beautiful” and fancy plants... but for some reason when I look at Elegans, I sort-of gasp (in person or in photos), and have to think about how amazing it is. Popmama’s plant above has that quality for me. I have a new Elegans, and when it look at it I just hope it grows up to look like that.


    Pinkdaisy- your plant is pretty... and maybe it’s an immature Elegans, but maybe it’s Blue Angel? Or one of the other big blues? Maybe next year you could capture photos of it in bloom and that might be diagnostic.

  • 8 years ago
    Good suggestion. I will do that.
  • 8 years ago

    I have this blue, and have not been able to figure which blue it is. So now I just call it "Omy Blue" named after the person who gave it to me. It's not a head turner but it is a nice plant and good grower. Blooms mid August with light purple flowers.

    Located with a little more sun, in bloom.


  • 8 years ago

    Any chance you have voles? Those shorter, immature leaves look like they might be growing from a vole damaged crown. If that’s possible I vote for Blue Angel.

  • 8 years ago

    Pinkdaisydreams....can you post a pic of the back of the leaf and the petioles?

  • 8 years ago

    windy ... qualified??? .. yes you are.. because you are learning to observe with a critical eye ... two thumbs up ...


    in fact ... elegans flowers are barely above the canopy ... there is one pic at the library that shows such ...


    windy ... qualified??? .. yes you are.. because you are learning to observe with a critical eye ... two thumbs up ... note how in popmama second seedling pic.. which doesnt look like E because its pointed.. compared to the first pic.. which is much closer to E ...


    ken

  • 8 years ago

    I also have, what I consider to be, Elegans. I call it my Elegans NOID. To me I believe it is Elegans, but the "NOID" part reminds me that I really don't know for sure what it is. Here is a picture taken at the end of June.

    What pops out for me (in your photo) pinkdaisydreams is that your hosta is planted right next to that large tree. I would say your plant hasn't matured because the tree is robbing your hosta of moisture and nutrients. I bet if you dug it up, you would find your hosta is being strangled by tree roots. I have two huge maple trees and have untangled tree roots from many a hosta. What was surprising for me was that the tree roots didn't just weave around the hosta roots. The tree roots went right up to the neck of the hosta almost like a choke hold. My Elegans NOID is in a spin out bag. (I got tired of having to dig up under performing hostas and removing those tree roots.)

  • 8 years ago

    height on newhostaladys plant look consistent with sieboldiana ...


    ken

  • 8 years ago

    Here's what I've got so far:


    zKathy: yes I can confirm I have voles. Just saw one of the buggers today.


    ademink: Here are the requested photos.





  • 8 years ago

    Newhostalady: I will dig it up and see what's going on and get back to you!

  • 8 years ago

    If there is root invasion, you will be able to get a good idea when you dig around the plant before you even remove it. What kind of tree is beside your hosta?

  • 8 years ago
    River Birch.
  • 8 years ago
    Shallow roots.
  • 8 years ago
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    Yikes, that poor hosta! Good job on digging it out. River Birch tree? Unfortunately that tree has shallow roots---a lot of them! I am currently digging near a Paper Birch tree. There are so many roots! I was hoping to find usable hosta land. Found some, but not as much as I had hoped for (especially for all the work it entailed). You will have a happier hosta! Maybe you will be able to identify it next year. May it explode with growth in 2019!

  • 8 years ago

    I think those brown roots are tree roots. Hosta roots are white. I see a few Hosta roots but they are short, like they’ve been chewed on. How are you watering this Hosta?


    Since you’ve already dug it up you could hose it off, pull the tree roots out, get some sort of vole proofing and a spin out bag and dig a hole a little further away from the tree then replant and forget about it for a few years. Then you’ll have a mature plant that should be easy to identify.

  • 8 years ago
    Thanks for all the help with this hosta! I'll work on the roots and start dealing with this vole problem. Ugh.

    I may end up planting all or part of it at my cabin. No voles there.
  • 8 years ago

    all the brown roots are tree roots ... hit it hard with the hose.. and get all the tree roots out of it ...ken