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Bare rooting: do I need this to callus?

Hi all,


One of my three trees didn’t push new growth like the others even though they all did it at the same time two months ago. I knew that meant something could be wrong so I’m bare rooting it now while it’s hydrated from last night‘s rain.


I came across a problem while bare rooting that I haven’t dealt with before and need some advice on how to finish the repot. At the very center of the rootball is a nub/endpoint of the rootstock. The exposed heartwood is the thick, pink/reddish stem at the bottom with a darkened tip.

The tip had bark at first but it was mushy and it rubbed off easily. It must‘ve started to rot from the constant rain and the cold spell a couple weeks ago. Good news is the heartwood is hard and sturdy so no rot there. But I’m worried about the bark above the heartwood. I keep imagining that after the repot it will start rotting again and then traveling up to rot the bark further up the trunk.


I’ve never dealt with this before and I’m not sure if I should continue with the repot now. It didn’t fully bare root it yet so right now its laid down and original old soil is covering the unfinished root ball.


Should I expose the bark above the nub/heartwood so it can dry out before I put the tree in the new mix? I can move aside the covered roots to expose the bark around the tip, but will it even callus like that? It would be great if someone with experience or knowledge on this particular situation can give some ideas about what to do next. It’s a huge pain in the butt when you have to re-repot!

Comments (16)

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    What kind of trees? You're saying "root-stock" because these are grafted?

    If you think there is a persisting high water table rotting the bottom tips you need to do something about that. Something like drain lines or planting high.

    kvetchlambkin (nyc 7b) thanked Embothrium
  • 7 years ago

    Yep it’s grafted, Okitsu Wase satsuma on Poncirus trifoliata. It’s mostly an issue of the original soil it came in. I’m replacing it with a mix that did well growing a large root system on my previous Meyer lemon. I’m just looking for some direction or guidance about handling that bottom trunk tip. The tip is very hard and not a root because there’s bark on it. That rootstock was probably propagated as a cutting

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Bumping this thread, after 3 hours my tree is still half bare rooted and waiting for me lol.

    Any ideas or advice about this? I’ll continue bare rooting and potting it up regardless of the potential bark issue if there isn’t any other advice or ideas after I have dinner !

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    I suspect it was an air layered rootstock. That could be the only explanation for it to have bark on it. If you go higher on that bark you might see the exposed wood/wound on the trunk.

    kvetchlambkin (nyc 7b) thanked sunshine (zone 6a, Ontario,Canada)
  • 7 years ago

    Sunshine you’re probably right that it’s an airlayer which is actually a great idea. You’ll always have mature rootstocks with thick enough stems for grafting! If that has worked for you then I’ll cut it away even if that heartwood looks fine. Also because I know the cinnamon works for orchids too. Thank you so much for the tips sunshine!

  • 7 years ago

    No problem, Kvetch! Update us on the tree's progress :)

    kvetchlambkin (nyc 7b) thanked sunshine (zone 6a, Ontario,Canada)
  • 7 years ago

    Thanks sunshine! I cut it off the way you suggested and put cinnamon on the wound that night. And here’s a photo of the washed rootball before I pruned the roots

    ^ alot of the mix was gunked up in those kinds of bending roots. The roots had alot of great branching but most of them were already becoming transparent/ not white anymore and beginning to mush. I ended up giving it a pretty heavy root trimming. Sorry I didn’t take a photo of what it looked like after my root pruning. I was up until so late finishing the up pot I wanted to get to bed asap

    And here’s the tree next day

    Much nicer in the white pot :) I just hope the roots don’t start rotting again with the cool nights we’re having now

  • 7 years ago

    Kvetch, it is gorgeous! When indoors, keep it elevated, off the floor, container mix on the floor in wintertime stays cold and the roots don't like it if you have sufficient amount of light. My trees do better in wintertime if they are elevated to the level of the windowsill.

    kvetchlambkin (nyc 7b) thanked sunshine (zone 6a, Ontario,Canada)
  • 7 years ago

    keep the soil oxygenated.

    New Zealand lemonade on US897 rootstock. · More Info

    Notice the vacuum and vacuum chamber on the right side of the image. 10 second draw daily when the soil is on the wet side does the trick. As the soil dries out no air drawing is necessary.

    Steve

    kvetchlambkin (nyc 7b) thanked poncirusguy6b452xx
  • 7 years ago

    Steve I love that photo as usual lol How are you able to fit a bucket over the vacuum? Is it a normal home vacuum?

    sunshine, I didn’t think about elevating it that high before but I’ll try this year. I have a 4 tier shelf this time so it might make it to the window :)

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Kvetch, my sunroom windows are large and low sill, about the height of a coffee table, I use benches by the windows to place my containers on. The whole container gets to be in the light.

    kvetchlambkin (nyc 7b) thanked sunshine (zone 6a, Ontario,Canada)
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    That sounds so nice for your trees! I know WLD happens from high light & lower temps, do you get that from your trees by the sill? Our house is very old with old school radiators and my room gets less heated than the others in the wintertime. I was considering doing what Mike does this year and keeping them cool in low light but I’m tempted to go with your method

  • 7 years ago

    For young grafts and newly repotted plants around this time of the year I would keep them elevated and give more light. For larger trees you can go with Mike's method. Those are my observations with more vulnerable trees.

    kvetchlambkin (nyc 7b) thanked sunshine (zone 6a, Ontario,Canada)
  • 7 years ago

    My Meyer lemon this year had a tantrum :) dropped most of it's leaves as soon as it came indoors, even though I placed it on the most sunny window. Such a cry baby :) sitting there with bare branches, no die back thank God!

    kvetchlambkin (nyc 7b) thanked sunshine (zone 6a, Ontario,Canada)
  • 7 years ago

    Hahahha thats exactly what I was predicting my Meyer will do! The other trees will probably be well behaved enough in cool, low light conditions but my Meyer will get a prime spot at the window

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