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Question about La Paz

7 years ago
last modified: 7 years ago

I got this free bulb of La Paz and I'm still thinking whether I should keep it or give it away. I gave one to my best friend some years ago that is still blooming twice a year and has many offsets. I looked up the two pictures I have of the blooms and compared them to the pictures here in forum and at Fluwel. They all seem to show a lighter red than my friends flower which has a more burgundery red. Is this really La Paz?

The first picture I took when the flower was already fading.



This picture was made by my friend. I guess it was the first bloom of that bulb.

What do you say?

By the way, I wanted to look it up at Emaryllis but I cannot see any pictures in the photo library. Does anybody know what has happened to this wonderful website?

Anja

Comments (48)

  • 7 years ago


    The first picture always disapears when I post. This is probably one of the new features of Houzz. I try again here...

  • 7 years ago

    Hi Anja,

    The photos don't look like 'La Paz' to me. Instead, your friend’s photo looks more like it could be 'Lima.’ Since your flower was already fading, it’s not easy to identify. Maybe Hans-Werner will need to invent a new dance like 'LaPango.' :-)

    Regarding Emaryllis, a few weeks ago, I noticed that the text underneath the photos was not appearing correctly. I hope that the site is just being updated to fix a few issues. It is a wonderful resource and a pleasure to browse!

    catsandhippies thanked blancawing
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    From a cursory look at your two pictures, I would say that these are Lima which is more purple/ burgundy. La Paz aka Tango & La Pango (which I and many others believe are one and the same) has flowers much more pink plus other subtle differences.

    All my Lima pictures look very similar to your two above.

    Here is La Paz,(Tango & La Pango)


    and Lima...


    Now this picture of Lima was taken with a flash which might lighten the purple color a bit.

    I remember a few years ago that ETGB's Tango (or was it La Paz), all turned out to be Limas so who knows what your gift bulb may be. If it has the cybister shape then it really could be either and I'm not sure that most sellers would know the difference.

    Of the two, I think I prefer La Paz/Tango but I wouldn't turn up my nose to Lima either!

    Of course, this is just my opinion so anyone else who differs with my opinion please add theirs!!

    Donna

    http://www.emaryllis.com/

    catsandhippies thanked dondeldux z6b South Shore Massachusetts
  • 7 years ago

    I had the immense pleasure of spending the better part of Sunday with Bill and he said the site is down temporarily. He funds and maintains it.... a labor of love! He will be bringing it back up in due time.

    catsandhippies thanked kaboehm (zone 9a, TX USA)
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    That is wonderful news, Kristi!

    Anja, here is a photo that includes a side view of 'Lima' in daylight on the left .

    The color looks like a good match to your photo.



    catsandhippies thanked blancawing
  • 7 years ago

    Dear friends, thank you for your information and the beautiful pictures! I totally forgot that Lima exists but now I think you're probably right and my friends bulb may be rather Lima than La Paz.

    Kristi, thank you for that great news! I was a little worried because that site is really a wonderful source of information and inspiration.

    Blanca, who is Lima's friend on your picture?

    Anja

  • 7 years ago

    I agree, Fred! My partner has often looked at me in wonder when he sees me looking at photos on Emaryllis.com. He doesn't understand how I could look at the pictures over and over and over again. I love that site for helping to identify mislabels, too.

    catsandhippies thanked berkeleysgr8
  • 7 years ago

    Anja, it’s ‘Exotic Star’ partially open.

    catsandhippies thanked blancawing
  • 7 years ago

    Jody,


    That's cuz he just doesn't get it :-)))) I usually go on the site and do the "got it, got it, don't got it, want it, want it, want it" game :-))))

    catsandhippies thanked Fred Biasella
  • 7 years ago

    Blanca, It's really a great picture!

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Thank you so much, Anja! Sometimes there is a magical moment when different varieties spontaneously flower together.

  • 7 years ago

    Anja , I also think your plant is a Lima , here's mine and my La Paz (Tango)





    catsandhippies thanked agapanthe64
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago


    aaaah ...impossible to add 2 photos together

  • 7 years ago


    finaly ! Tango

    catsandhippies thanked agapanthe64
  • 7 years ago

    Gorgeous :-)))))))

  • 7 years ago

    Yes, gorgeous indeed, Béatrice! My La Paz decided that it wants to stay with me. Scapes are growing so fast even in the cool room where I have the bulbs now. It is still in the box but I have to plant it tomorrow, I cannot keep it untill Christmas. Well, maybe next year it will be a gift...

  • 7 years ago

    Anja,


    I think that sounds wonderful :-))) I was just in the basement looking to see if I had a La Paz down there and there wasn't one but that's ok because over the weekend I went to a local nursery and picked one up. Something told me to get one and I'm glad I listened. Perhaps it's the same "something" that told you to keep yours :-)))

    catsandhippies thanked Fred Biasella
  • 7 years ago

    once I had just a small bulb of the paz, not very satisfactory, and it is by seeing on this forum beautiful plants with several flower stalks that I finally decided to keep it, its flowers are very large for a cybister! now I'm waiting for him to form a big clump :-)

    Fred how lucky to have so many choices in a local nursery !! in France, it's impossible, you have to order ! so you'll have a bloom soon :-)))

    catsandhippies thanked agapanthe64
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    For what it is worth, I think should surely keep it! For me, the colors of Lima are much more appealing and the shape also more attractive.

    catsandhippies thanked lokai99
  • 7 years ago

    Yes, I'm keeping it. It has three scapes growing too fast to be a Christmas present...

  • 7 years ago

    Hello All,


    Here is my beautiful La Paz blooming today. It's been a very CRAZY week but at least I have something to help boost my spirits.


    Taken without flash



    Taken with flash




    catsandhippies thanked Fred Biasella
  • 7 years ago

    Very beautiful indeed, Fred!! Love your little copper doohickies!!

  • 7 years ago

    She's beautiful, Fred! I hope your crazy week mellows out SOON!

  • 7 years ago

    Hi Fred,


    It looks like her beauty is brightening up your workplace with much more to come.

    I hope that you'll be bringing her home to enjoy for the holidays.

  • 7 years ago

    I's lovely Fred , and I love your copper support too ! I brought my La Paz inside too for seeing her bloom sooner too..

  • 7 years ago

    Very beautiful Fred and a nice idea for a support! Mine is opening its first flower too, I hope I'll find the time to take a picture in daylight tomorrow...

  • 7 years ago

    Thank you all for the kind words :-))) My little copper doohickies were born out of necessity and a little brain storming. I had been thinking of making something to support my hippies when they flower that looks kinda ok and this is the latest version of what I came up with :-)))

  • 7 years ago

    Very ingenious Fred, I thought you had bought them somewhere!!

  • 7 years ago

    This is to wish everybody Merry Christmas and happy holidays! There will be many more flowers soon. There is even a fourth scape coming...

    Anja

  • 7 years ago

    Anja,


    Very beautiful :-)) My wishes to you and everybody as well for a joyous, happy and healthy Christmas.



    Love and lots of warm hugs,

    Fred


  • 7 years ago

    Beautiful and Merry Christmas to all as well!! -

  • 7 years ago

    Fred thank you for this idea, I will try to inspire me too, it is so successful.

    My 'La Paz' has so far 3 buds that emerge, and many other flowers coming soon: this is the season of the hippeastrum begins :-)

  • 7 years ago

    Beatrice,


    Please share pictures when they do. I'm sure I speak for everyone else when I say we'd love to see them :-)))

  • 7 years ago

    yes I will !! I also love too much seeing your photos , and photos of all the ones I can't grow ;-)

    ...a 4th bud today , La Paz is generous :-)

  • 7 years ago


    Here she is so high ! I had to put in another heavy pot , she was so unbalanced





    catsandhippies thanked agapanthe64
  • 7 years ago

    Hi Beatrice,


    Wow...she looks amazing and the beautiful green background makes me so jealous :-))))) The temperature today is -12C and everything is frozen solid, including the large river that flows through Boston.

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Béatrice, she is gorgeous! She looks quite different from mine but this may be because yours gets more light. Is this is new bulb or one you've had for years?

    Fred, please be patient, spring will come for sure :-)))

    Anja

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    I present to you La Paz.

    Ordered Exotic Star from Hirt's Gardens. The first two bulbs were tagged with the typical Dutch bulb label attached and I was so impressed with the beauty that I ordered 2 more weeks later from Hirt's. The seconds two only arrived in a paper bag with "Glee" hand written which was kinda suspect. Looks like both will likely be La Paz, as Blanca guessed from the buds.





  • 7 years ago

    Hi Anja :-))

    I had this bulb from royal color in 2014 , maybe it's flowers aren't my favourite, but it is a so strong grower and so generous giving many scapes that now I love it so muche I gave it a big pot ;-)

    here it is befor I cut the first scape :



    Fred , it is green becaude it rains non stop !!! it is difficult to find a moment without rain for taking a picture in natural light ! but is true we don't have so much frost


    catsandhippies thanked agapanthe64
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    agapanthe64, beautiful photos as always. I'd like to see what happens when La Paz polen is dabbed on Papilio.

    catsandhippies thanked Brian Sakamoto (10a, CA, USA)
  • 7 years ago

    Thank you Brians , are you going to try this cross ? this is a good iea , maybe I can try the reverse cross to se :-)


    catsandhippies thanked agapanthe64
  • 7 years ago

    agapanthe64, I may attempt for what I have now and that would be La Paz x Papilio. It would be an experiment since I still have frozen Papilio pollen in the fridge for 9 months and would like to test viability.

    catsandhippies thanked Brian Sakamoto (10a, CA, USA)
  • 7 years ago

    My new bulb has 4 scapes too and I'm really happy that I kept it :-)) I'm curious to see if I can keep it like that. I think I never had more than two scapes on an old bulb.


    Good luck for your pollination plans! I won't breed with this bulb this season but of course I will collect some pollen...

    Anja

  • 7 years ago

    Brian so we make the same cross , I used frozen pollen too...

    fantastic Anja !!! for me it was 3 scape on the mother bulb and 1 on an offset

    catsandhippies thanked agapanthe64
  • 7 years ago
    1. This is my Lima.



      That just stopped blooming. Put out 2 scapes this past month. The two top pictures are with a flash in morning light. The last picture is just morning light. Se how different it looks? Morning light in south Fla
    catsandhippies thanked PoohBearLvr
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Here is my always admired LaPaz/Tango. She has good color.

    Brian, somewhere around here I have one decent sized seedling of Papilio x LaPaz/Tango. I thought there were more but can only find one. A few years from blooming though...and I just found my pot of Tango x papilio so it appears that they are good both way.



    catsandhippies thanked dondeldux z6b South Shore Massachusetts
  • 7 years ago

    Poohbear,


    They look lovely and very happy growing outdoors. How lucky you are to be in the sunshine and warmth :-)))

    catsandhippies thanked Fred Biasella
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