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Climber for sunny dry hot location

7 years ago

I have a spot along a fence where I have room for a climber, not too big, but small to medium would work, and I'm thinking fragrant and repeat blooming. But this fence is in zone 7 at a high altitude where the sun is very drying and harsh and it's along a driveway where in the height of summer the sun reflects off the driveway and this fence faces west. So I need something that won't crisp too easily from the dry heat. One I have thought of is Jeanne Lajoie, but I've considered lots of others too and am looking for suggestions. I don't have a particular color in mind but I do love fragrance. What comes to mind??

Comments (16)

  • 7 years ago

    That sounds like a very challenging position, and climbers will probably have a harder time that shrub roses since their canes will be more exposed to the sun. With global warming the sun is more harsh, which is something I've noticed even at my 1700 feel elevation over the last 4-5 years.

    pippacovalent thanked ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
  • 7 years ago

    Since my garden relies on rainfall for its' irrigation, I can't really recommend any rose for you, though my garden IS exposed to crisping, dry afternoon sun. For this reason, anything after the spring flush counts as just the cherry-on-top of the ice cream sundae. However, two things do pop into mind reading your post,pippa. One: would painting the driveway be an option, choosing a colour that might absorb less heat than the typical black (I'm assuming here it's black)? Two: would planting a fast-growing tree ,placed so that it would shade the rose from the worst of the afternoon sun be an option? Afternoon shade and morning sun tends to be very much appreciated by many roses, so you might have more varieties from which to choose.

    pippacovalent thanked User
  • 7 years ago

    The driveway is concrete so almost white when the sun shines on it. So it doesn't really make the area hot it's just a lot of sun which I think only some roses can handle and there isn't a place to plant a shade tree. I'm able to give the rose it's own drip emitter there so water won't be an issue. I did very successfully grow pole beans along the that fence so it's not the worst location I guess lol. I just need a perennial there now so I was thinking a rose. I don't mind if it stops blooming in the worst of summer but I would love a repeat in the fall at least. It's not a bad location in spring and fall but still the sun is bright because of the reflection from concrete so I think it still needs a rose whose petals don't easily crisp.

  • 7 years ago

    Would Evelyn climb for you? I know here it turns into a climber, but it would all depend on your winters. Mine loves the dry heat and sun, and gets no relief from it. As long as she gets enough water, she's at her best in the dry heat of summer. Surprisingly, she doesn’t crisp for me at all. She’s also never had powdery mildew or rust. I wish I could say the same for Abraham Darby. He’s rusting again, just like last year at this time. Lisa

    pippacovalent thanked Lisa Adams
  • 7 years ago
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    Evelyn is a good option as Lisa mentions. Consider also Laguna, although it has a lot of thorns and might be painful if there is a lot of foot traffic in tight quarters. Here in high-altitude dry heat, all roses gets crispy in the summer. Would a crape myrtle fit in the area?

    pippacovalent thanked noseometer...(7A, SZ10, Albuquerque)
  • 7 years ago

    Those are all great suggestions thank you all! Thorns are fine as it's not close to where we walk, and it's a narrow spot where really only a climber works. I hate having a bare fence and the pole beans were okay but I want a rose lol :)

  • 7 years ago

    I live in east Texas where summers can be brutally hot. I have a long fence in my front yard in full, all day sun, the roses face west. I put in 3 spigots in my large large several years ago so have access to water. I have a mix of climbers and upright roses. Two of my favorite climbers are Mel's Heritage and Sally Holmes. Mel is a rambler type and drapes itself gracefully over the fence and blooms in flushes - when it does, it is covered in small pink blooms and can be seen from a distance. Sally Holmes, a bright white, is never without blooms and is always visable. The key is getting them established. Years ago I saw Chamblees test garden - they plant the roses, water them in, then they are on their own. The one rose I recall that was huge and in full bloom was Pinata, a yallow/orange. I have a young one growing on this fence and it is doing well. I would think anything own root would do well especially antique roses like Lamarque. Heavy mulch would be very helpful. I plan to topdress my roses there with composted horse manure then put mulch on top of that - helps keep weeds down and protects the roots. Dublin Bay, a red, is another good one. I dont recall any of my climbers being fragrant, though there probably are some. I have Aloha in another spot, not in brutal sun, that blooms all the time. I think you should just pick what you like, keep it well watered and mulched the first year to get it started, and most anything should do fine.

    Judith

    pippacovalent thanked alameda/zone 8/East Texas
  • 7 years ago

    You might want to read through Cori Ann's many posts on the subject. She has VERY hot and dry summer conditions and wrote extensively on which climbers and other rose thrived in these conditions. Cori Ann's Threads

    Just be aware of one of THE stupidest and most annoying things on Houzz. After viewing a post, going back returns on the the very beginning of the list. This isn't so bad with 10 posts, but when one has hundreds it's impossible.

    pippacovalent thanked Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley
  • 7 years ago

    A rose that has done well for me (although my rose garden is pretty new) in the hottest part of my garden is Pretty in Pink Eden. The flowers don't crisp or fade very much and the foliage is thick and shiny, so it seems to do well with heat. The only downside is that it's not super fragrant.

    Others I have planted in the hottest part of my garden (admittedly, I'm in the PNW...but the area has lots of reflected heat and afternoon sun) that are thriving are:

    Eden...it seems to love the sun and heat. I have a second one planted in a cooler shadier spot and it's only half the size.

    Polka...this rose also seems to love the heat. It has fragrant blooms and nice foliage too.

    Mel's Heritage...this rose never fades in the sun. The foliage is always dark green and shiny. The flowers are small, but so beautiful. It makes a wonderful effect from far away!


    pippacovalent thanked Rosylady (PNW zone 8)
  • 7 years ago

    Mel’s Heritage is a great suggestion, too! I just have to second Judith’s suggestion of my favorite rose of all time! I’n my yard he is easily 50’ wide at 3 or 4 years of age, but I ‘m sure he would stay smaller in a lower zone. Zero disease, blooms 9 months a year for me, (if not year round), and LOVES the hot sun! Mel’s Heritage is a champion in every way! Lisa

    pippacovalent thanked Lisa Adams
  • 7 years ago

    Well, I would say that pretty much seals the deal! Wowz! ; 0

    pippacovalent thanked Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley
  • 7 years ago

    Lisa, I can't believe how much Mel's Heritage has grown. This rose is in a class all its own, so beautiful and yet tough as nails in the heat.

    pippacovalent thanked ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
  • 7 years ago
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    Blush Noisette, if you can grow Noisettes. Don Juan is very heat tolerant. D.J. bloomed during triple-digit temperatures in my Las Vegas garden. If your preferences and garden scheme can deal with its bright coloring, Joseph's Coat is heat tolerant and might work. Cl. America is heat tolerant. Aloha (Boerner) has also proven to be heat tolerant.

    Mel's Heritage becomes very large, but in zone 7 it may be within the size range you described. It is a very vigorous grower...

    pippacovalent thanked Lynn-in-TX-Z8b- Austin Area/Hill Country
  • 7 years ago

    Mel's Hertitage is another rose I wish was available here in Europe...

  • 7 years ago
    Altissimo is a very true blood red single rose with yellow stamens that really pop and it does well in heat. I see it planted around inland Los Angeles basin. I don’t think it has fragrance. Lots of blooms though. It is on Santa Clarita’s rose society list. This is a town inland from Los Angeles and its super hot and sunny!
    http://scvrs.homestead.com/RoseRecommends.html
    pippacovalent thanked Stephanie, 9b inland SoCal