Please take a look at this thread, including the first couple comments, and redo your layout + include the other useful info.

https://www.gardenweb.com/discussions/5500754/new-to-kitchens-read-me-first

They are directing you to that so you can get the best answers to your questions. Take the time to read it all, digest the info, and apply it. You'll get more/better help and a better result.

We need a proper layout on graph paper. The reason people put in as many cabinets as possible is because storage is KEY in a kitchen. While open shelves are visually pleasant, they don't store a ton. And near a stove they get greasy as well as dusty so I do not recommend them.

When you said you went to a local place what type of place? A big box store like Home Depot? A local cabinet sales person? An interior designer? or a certified kitchen designer? You need a KD.

The cost of the kitchen designer is almost always built into the cost of the cabinetry, and a good one won't try to fill your room with cabinets if that's what you don't want. Look up your local NKBA chapter and find showrooms/designers near you.

If you read the post linked above, at the bottom of it (before the comments) it says this:

This is means once you scroll to the comments you need to expand them (so as to see the oldest (and most important) ones). In this case, you click on the words at the top of the comment (ie ‘Show 81 more comments’) until there is nothing left to click. Awkward but that’s the forum for ya.

Start of a floorplan. If don't know how to draw to scale, that's ok. A general sketch should help.

Something like this will help Houzzers.

Good job of the floor plan! Thanks

I noticed thinking of getting laminate cabinets. I highly advise to inspect the doors .

Google how to fix laminate or thermafoil cabinet doors. Here's a link to start

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+fix+laminate+cabinets&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b

Some Laminate & thermafoil doors can eventuality peel & cannot be repainted.

We are constantly ripping these out for clients and replacing. I feel sorry for people who go through this, especially when they invested in beautiful, expensive countertop on these. Usually within 4-5 years the wear and tear becomes an issue & they decide to replace. I ask them in retrospect would you have bought laminate, all of them regretted the laminate & said never again. Most of them had no idea, what laminate truly was, but they know now. Learned lesson.

I highly suggest buying painted or stain wood or high quality mdf, so they won't peel. They can also be touched up & painted years later.

yes, they do cost more, but they last longer. time is money. it's cheaper than having to redo a kitchen twice when the cabinets start to deteriorate.

A kitchen remodel is a big investment, suggest to buy items that will last longer to get longetivity for your $.

Please google how to fix laminate doors, wood doors, mdf doors. So, you can pick the best for your goals now & later.

Hope that helps :)

Option 1

landing space left of fridge, microwave wall cabinet above to left of fridge or above stove

tall pantries on ends to block view of counter when at table

shelving or wall cabinet above dishwasher

option 2

open view from dining table to stove window wall with open shelving

all tall cabinets on 1 wall with fridge

microwave hood or open hood with in base cabinet

2 same size 1 door wall cabinets on both sides of stove

Those pictures are thermafoil, however

Laminate has similarities.

Laminate refers to any type of material used in the laminating process, whereas thermofoil constitutes a very specific type of PVC vinyl coating. Thermofoil comprises just one of the numerous laminates used in and around the home. Though thermofoil refers to a very specific type of laminate, companies that manufacture thermofoil or thermofoil-coated materials may use different processes in the creation and application of thermofoil.

Thermafoil vs Laminate

https://www.hunker.com/12607734/thermofoil-vs-laminate

Here's a link people discussing their Shiloh cabinets.

https://www.houzz.com/discussions/shiloh-cabinets-initial-impressions-review-dsvw-vd~2567037

High pressure laminate makes for great cabinets. And has for 40 years for European brands. Even very expensive Euro brands. It's used for flooring for goodness sakes! Don't let the out of touch people trying for a false equivalency to sell you something more expensive talk you out of it.

I edited my original post to include the word thermofoil. Thanks for pointing that out.

Can you get a door sample & cut it in half to inspect it fully? By cutting it in half you can see how thick the outer covering is & how well it is adhered. What the door is made of inside. Then do a scratch test.

I suggest seeing the cabinets in person before purchasing.

If ordering online, purchase 1 of the cabinets in the layout. That way you can fully inspect the quality and process. If it goes well, great! order the rest. If not, you just saved yourself from being stuck with a bunch of cabinets not up to your desired standards. Plus, it will be useful to see the color in your space to pick out the rest of samples.

Hope that helps:)

I'm not trying to talk the OP out of something. I'm just trying to help give the OP information & links for their research, so they can make the best decision for their project.

When I was playing around with different kitchen layouts, I bought a notepad full of graph paper, some colored pencils, and some construction paper. Once I had everything measured, I drew a basic outline (with doors/windows marked) to scale on the graph paper. I used the 1 sq = 6 inches scale. I then measured out what appliances I wanted on a different piece and cut them out. I then glued them to the construction paper and cut it out (so it was stronger and easily visible.) Then you can see how they fit in the space without having to redraw every time you make a change in cabinet sizes. Just measure out the cabinet size (write it on the back is very helpful).

Once I had it mostly figured out, I started drawing with the colored pencils (one color for appliances, one for lower cabs, one for upper cabs, etc.) so that I could easily reference it when we went to order our cabinets. It won't let you see the layout with cabinets in 3-d like the design programs would, but there is also much less yelling at the computer because it won't let something fit/be moved where you need it. Once you have a more set idea on the layout, then I would go to the design software and see some version of it in 3-d.

Good that you did your research on the cabinet quality beforehand. There's a lot of junk out there these days. Buying high quality cabinets that will last is wise investment.

As for laying out your own...

Does the place your ordering from offer cabinet layout services?

We have several local cabinet companies in town that offer a layout with estimate for free when purchasing cabinets.

I use a local cabinet store that assembles the cabinets. They give me a layout, 3D renderings, and the high quality cabinets. I save an average of 30% less than Home Depot or Lowes going to local cabinet companies.

I thought the bigger the store the lower the price. Well, not always. If it's on the floor in the store, usually less, but if it's special ordered from a vendor or referred, no. The price goes up significantly.

I was surprised the prices were so much lower at local cabinet stores. I asked why. Found out, if it is more of a direct manufacturer to customer process, so less upcharge for less hands it exchanges to client.

I suggest getting 2-3 estimates around your town.

Good luck with your kitchen; )

Hello! I am a KB Designer. This is how I see the space coming together...

Garbage located to the right of the sink.

12" Pantry. 30" Stove with hood or micro.

If you have a dining room, I would dedicate the kitchen space to the kitchen with counter height seating. You could still fit a small 2 - person table.

very nice renderings Carly Schwanz nicely done

Thank you Carly Schwanz! Looks good! However, I rather keep the stove closed to window, also we already have vent opening to the outside. I love cooking!