Software
Houzz Logo Print
lige_shi

Can the heavy snow damage the rose

I am in Montreal where is zone5a. This is the first year to grow the no hardy roses ( Adam, just joey and some DAs). I did the compost mulched at least 8 inches each.Now here is -10C and with big snow which I am so happy to see. Today I suddenly got an idea to fully cover my roses with the snow. After 1 hour sweating work, I got an concerning: Is the heavy snow covering damage my roses or has any other downside?


Thanks a lot in advance

Comments (30)

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Plant Adam, just joey in pots now and bring them into your basement, grow them under light. They are tender roses for your zone. They will die if you leave them outside in the garden. Are the DAs grafted? Make sure the grafted parts are cover in the garden. That’s what I am going to do tomorrow, cover the roses with mulch.

    I have Adam and just Joy in pots, I moved them in the garages already for the winter, and will water them once a month. I have to look for Adam, I combined a lot of tender roses with potted rose trees this summer, not sure which garage Adam went in.......

    Montreal is much colder than my area (zone 6a in NY near Canada), I am not sure if roses would be ok in attached garages over there.

    Lige(Montreal zone 5a) thanked summersrhythm_z6a
  • 7 years ago

    Cynthia, I think Lige is in US zone 4, Canadian zone 5a.

  • 7 years ago

    Thank you so much for your quick reply. it makes me feel much better. I have been in Canada for 15 years. This is first time to welcome the heavy snow:) You are right that the worst days are in February with wind chill like-40c. I wish all of them could survive from the winter suffering

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    -40 C= -40 F! You are in US zone 3a!!! A huge ice hole!!!

    Adam and Just Joey would be dead before Feb......they can’t take the cold in your area even you cover them with 20 meters mulch......you only can grow them in pots and move them indoors during the winter months in zone 3a.

  • 7 years ago

    Thank you for your suggestion summersrhythm , It is not realistic to grow the roses in pots and move them in the garbage here. Actually my dream backyard is English style garden with roses even it sounds like.....I still like to try:). Last winter the survived Perfume melody which belongs floribundas really encouraged me a lot . That's why I planted 15 no hardys this summer. BTY You are right I am also wondering there is difference of the hardiness zone between US & CA. In your zone, with the good protection. the roses in ground has no problem in winter.

  • 7 years ago

    Here are some beauties in this summer. I'd like to share with you and wish to see them all next year.:)












  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    I still have problems in my zone growing tender roses. I have lost so many, in hundreds over the years. Adam and Just Joey are tender for my zone too. I have just over a hundred potted rose, may be around 130-140. I moved most of them in the garages during the winter months, the tender tea roses I grow them in the basement under lights every winter. This year I ran out of room in the garages, so 38 potted rose trees went in the in-law apartment. Lol Will have to keep eyes on those.

  • 7 years ago

    Wua.......over hundred!!!! I have to say you are the truly rose lover:)

  • 7 years ago

    Wow, your garden is beautiful indeed!

    Lige(Montreal zone 5a) thanked summersrhythm_z6a
  • 7 years ago

    Lige, i am also in Montreal, and grow many David Austin’s, hybrid teas, and old garden roses. I do not winter protect any of them any more, but they are planted with the graft union 2-3 inches deep. That, combined with plenty of snow cover, is protection enough. I haven't lost any roses in the ground. The ones in pots, I have mixed results with,but that is probably because I keep them in an attached shed. They would do better in an attached garage I’m sure. You may be surprised at what survives in your garden. Snow is the best insulation you can have.

    Lige(Montreal zone 5a) thanked judith5bmontreal
  • 7 years ago

    I forget to mention that the roses survive just fine, but I have to prune them down quite low in the spring to remove dead canes. By June they’ve bounced right back!

  • 7 years ago

    Lige, don't despair, your lowest "wind-chill" temperature isn't the basis for your real climate zone. Montreal has a reasonable climate for many roses.


    Snow cover is good protection for roses as maintains an even freezing temperature and provides wind protection. Don't use a snow blower that piles the snow from above and don't throw shovels of snow on the branches, build the snow from the bottom up.


    Your rose photos are beautiful - what are the varieties?


    I have seen Just Joey growing in zone 5. Good luck!

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Lige is in US zone 3 or 4, not in US zone 5.

  • 7 years ago

    I don't think fully covering the roses with snow will make much difference. You will still lose some cane. As far as having heavy snow on the roses, it won't hurt them unless you try to brush or shake them off while they're frozen. Trying to clean them off usually does more damage than good. Leave them alone and as the snow melts they will bounce back up on their own.

    Lige(Montreal zone 5a) thanked seil zone 6b MI
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Seil, do you still have your potted Just Joey? There was a lady named Karen in Michigan who lost Just Joey 4 times in 4 years( lost one each year) in zone 5. Do you remember her? I am wondering what happened to her. It would be great if she could tell us her story about growing Just Joey in zone 5.

  • 7 years ago

    Thank you Judith, So happy to hear that your roses are going well in our city. It is really a good new today:)

  • 7 years ago

    The name of the roses are :1 Bolero has very nice scent. 2, DA heritage which is a bit smaller than I thought. maybe next year would be better. 3, HT sunbelt savannah, I like its form before the fully opening with good fragrance. 4 Eden climber no scent.

  • 7 years ago

    Heritage is the only one of yours I grow, and has no problem making it through winter. All my Austins do fine. In the spring you may have to prune right down almost to the graft before you see live wood, but they all sprout quickly and bloom by mid-end of June. The others you mention i have no experience with. My backyard is already covered in snow so all my 50 or so roses are safely tucked away. Winter has come early, and with a vengeance!

    And I agree with Summers....your garden is beautiful!

    Lige(Montreal zone 5a) thanked judith5bmontreal
  • 7 years ago

    Sorry I misunderstood, I thought the ones in the photos were the only ones you grew lol. Serves me right for not rereading your original post:0). Maybe we grow many of the same roses! I look forward to your photos next summer!

  • 7 years ago

    Lige, since I’ve gardened in So California my whole life, I have nothing to contribute about rose protection during winter and snow. I just wanted to say that the photo you posted of your garden is absolutely gorgeous! It’s truly beautiful. I love your white lupine. You have some lovely roses, and I sure understand why you’d want to see those beauties again next summer.

    Isn’t Bolero a wonderful rose? It’s one of my favorites, and I love it so much that I have three of them. Good luck with old man winter. I’m rooting for you! Lisa

    Lige(Montreal zone 5a) thanked Lisa Adams
  • 7 years ago

    Judith, Your garden would be very beautiful with over 50 roses and it also give me much more cofidence for building my rose garden. I will update for sure next season . BTW, could you please share some ideas deal with the disease like powdery mildew and japanese beetle that made me frustrated from late July to september. I tried the soda & dishwashing liquid mix, but it did not work well.

  • 7 years ago

    I only have occasional powdery mildew on my Therese Bugnet, and I just leave it, but ive Read about a milk and water mixture, that some people have tried. I’m not sure, maybe one part milk to 4 or 5 parts water? You might want to google that to check. So far, touch wood, I havent had a problem with Japanese beetles in my yard. I see maybe four or five in mid summer, knock them into soapy water and that’s it. But I know they are in my neighbourhood because there are tons of them in my community vegetable garden:0(

    The biggest problem I have is rose midge, and to me it is the worst thing you can have in a Rose garden. I battle it every year, but It’s a losing battle, so I’ve learned to enjoy the blooms that I do get and not get too discouraged. Hopefully You will never have to deal with them!

    Lige(Montreal zone 5a) thanked judith5bmontreal
  • 7 years ago





  • 7 years ago

    These are the only photos of my garden I have on my iPad......

  • 7 years ago

    Woo,,thanks a lot for the sharing. Your roses look sooooo healthy and gorgeous. I could image my garden further with your photos. You know I heard a lot voice that roses in our zone just like annual plants. But you really gave me abundance encouragement.


    There are the roses I just planted this year: double delight. peace. ebb tide, diamond of neil.

    DA: Winchester cathedral. crown of princess margaret. charlotte, mary rose. darcey bussell

    Do you have same one in your garden?

  • 7 years ago

    I have Double Delight in a pot, the only one of four that survived in my shed last winter! I just love the fragrance!

    Austins that I grow:

    Charlotte

    graham Thimas

    sharifa Asma

    Evelyn

    Tamara

    crocus rose

    spirit of freedom

    jude the obscure

    abraham Darby

    jubilee celebration

    pretty Jessica

    Heritage

    I do have Ebb Tide and love the fragrance of that one too. The blooms are gorgeous purple in the spring and fall, but unfortunately much smaller, and a bright fuschia pink when it gets hot.

    i have many hybrid teas, rugosas, some bourbons, hybrid perpetuals, and other old garden roses. They all do pretty well here.





  • 7 years ago

    You have many varieties. Most of DAs you have I didn't see in nursery store. Where did you buy them? My Ebb has same problem. I got it from nursery store with nice big blossom. then it was getting much smaller in my garden. Did you move the roses in pot to garage or buried them with pot in winter?

  • 7 years ago

    For the first year performance. The Just Joey & crown of princess margareta are really my favorites this year. Especially Just joey in September. It gave me almost over 5" big blossom with nice scent and last 1 week which is longer than DAs. Do you have any recommend I might grow next year?

  • 7 years ago

    I bought all my roses from Pickering (no longer in business) and Palatine mail order nurseries. I stored my potted roses in my attached shed under the deck, and lost many every year over winter. Next year I will try my attached garage, which should work better.