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Handeling Buckets of Poncirus

7 years ago

A friend said he would give me a couple containers of sour orange plants. I though great, I'll finally have a couple trifoliate orange plants to play with. I was wrong.... When I got them today, the containers have a sea of trees! Haven't counted them all, but I'm guessing 75-100 in each pot.


What would be the best way to separate these trees? Or would it be too late to do that now? I'm guessing the roots all all hog tied together by now. I've never separated a mess of citrus trees like this before. Looks like they are planted in clay! Heavy little containers. Wow, they have some serious thorns...



Comments (15)

  • 7 years ago

    Seperate the smallest ones to the biggest ones in that order. As you take 1 tiny root system after another 'quit easily' there will be a lot less roots to fight against to separate the big ones. They grow fast at this size so if you loose 3/4 of the roots it won't matter. Good luck.

    Steve

    calamondindave thanked poncirusguy6b452xx
  • 7 years ago

    Wow, you have a good friend. Just go easy, try to not hurry. Patience and time and you can get them untangled. Wash all of the soil off and it will be easier. Just my humble two cents. Lol.

    calamondindave thanked redneckgirlgreenthumb
  • 7 years ago

    lol


    calamondindave thanked bklyn citrus (zone 7B)
  • 7 years ago

    I would not do it now. Bury the pot in ground and mulch with lots of leaves. Sometime in March/April when maples wake up separate them. Thaw the soil first inside for a few days. Some will not make it but most will. No need to be very gentle. Use a chopstick/screwdriver to rake them out. Plant them in individual pots and protect them from freezing afterwards. You will need a lot of pots - lol. Or separate them into smaller clumps and send them to friends. PT is often sent/sold bare root in spring.

    calamondindave thanked tropicofcancer (6b SW-PA)
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    PT trees are super tough, I don't think you would end up killing very many of them if you did chose to separate them now and took steps to be as 'like it never happened' as possible. I like to put intertwined seedlings in a tub of water (not warm or hot water, whatever the air temperature is) and untangle the mess of roots that way as the water seems to facilitate the untangling a little bit easier than just teasing them apart. I've got about 100 PT seedling in treepots to (hopefully) graft my named varieties onto in the next year or so.

    Having said all that, you could easily just do what tropicofcancer said and bury the pot or protect the pot a good bit and do it all later

    calamondindave thanked katiebeth128_wv_6b
  • 7 years ago

    Thank you all for the suggestions.

  • 7 years ago

    You can now start an orchard pretty cheap, lucky you!

    calamondindave thanked Monyet
  • 7 years ago

    Yeah, after staring at them a long while, I decided to wait until next year and then separate them as suggested. I just want a few plants to learn grafting. My friend grows them this way as a barrier/fence plant I think. Maybe I do that with one bucket. Those thorns sure would stop me from trespassing. Trying to figure out what soil it's in. Looks like solid clay! The containers are heavy as bowling balls.



  • 7 years ago

    I think your decision depends on when you want to start grafting. If it is early spring I would try breaking away a portion now and pot them up in good soil. And grow them inside under lights so they are strong and ready earlier. I have one PT and two FD's outside in pots. Although I do not know what I will graft or whether I will at all. But if I do I will bring one or more indoors in spring and give them a head start.

    calamondindave thanked tropicofcancer (6b SW-PA)
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Those look like maybe two years or more away from grafting yet. They grow too slowly for me! Although it's hard to get a sense of the diameter of the stems of each one. If you have a way of keeping them growing over winter -- say under lights indoors, then you may as well pot up some.

    calamondindave thanked Dave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A
  • 7 years ago

    Whatever happened?

    calamondindave thanked bklyn citrus (zone 7B)
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    I left them right where I first put them, all winter long. I didn't bury or protect them, and they survived the winter fine. They have hit a growth mode this month, and I plan to start separating them this weekend. Here's how they look right now...



  • 7 years ago

    I have one about 2 years old I was wondering if I could keep it outside in a pot......looks like it

    calamondindave thanked bklyn citrus (zone 7B)
  • 7 years ago

    I have keep mine outside in a pot in -12F

    Steve

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