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Upper Mid-Range Kitchen Fridge Dilemma

7 years ago

Hi all, could use an opinion on a house I am working on.


I am rebuilding a 100 year old house top to bottom, including a 400 sq ft add on, to the point the whole house is basically completely rebuilt. The kitchen is a key focal point for this house and we plan to have it as an executive rental, or possibly as my own house.


We managed to score some Fisher and Paykel appliance pieces (wall oven and stove) in clearance for a massive discount. However, we are now stuck on deciding what to do with a built in fridge. Our renovation budget is already pushing its limits (the renovation is going to cost almost 350k total), and I looked at the FP fridge options and it is rather limited. Currently, we chose a 36" fridge that has only 17 cu of storage for a kitchen that is about 300-350 sq ft, with built in seating for almost 12 that opens up into the back yard. That fridge is about $5400. However, if we want any larger a fridge, it would have to be columns, and that would push our costs to over $10k.


I am considering adding a FP fridge drawer into the plans, which is going to run my fridge costs to almost 7500. And I was also considering if I should just go with a 42 or 48" GE Cafe or Monogram and forget about brand matching....


Finally, they do have a 36" Miele fridge marked down to 3000 from 7500, but there's some minor defects with some cosmetic damage to doors during installation that I am willing to overlook. However, to get a matching 18" wide (imo, kinda narrow?) 84" freezer I'll be spending at least 6800 for almost 10k an investment, or maybe even 7800 for a 36" freezer (then it becomes a question if I want 6' of fridge/freezer in a linear 22' kitchen. Is there such a thing as too much refrigeration?


What would you guys do in my situation? Should I blow out the budget for the fridge? Or could I make do with a small FP built in + fridge drawer?



Floorplan draft: There's a built in wooden dining room table intergrated with the island that can extend out of the glass garage door in kitchen.



Comments (16)

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Well, first of all I would not be doing remodeling for an “executive rental”. But if I were determined to do that , I’d talk to a realtor who regularly rents out such places and find out what such tenant’s expectations actually are.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Well...I've looked and looked at the plans...I can't find the location of the refrigerator...is it in there somewhere?


    Are you looking for a "standard" depth refrigerator (up to 39" deep plus 1"-2" air space on back, sides and top), or a built-in 24" deep refrigerator? Or does it matter?

  • 7 years ago
    Virgil...
  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Gotcha--thanks. With this design, one is left with only the option of a built-in 24" deep refrigerator. Expensive.


    Pantry?


    Curious why there's a bench and a (apparently) new 6" wall opposite the island. That could be a beautiful pantry if it was framed to open toward the kitchen.

  • 7 years ago

    We have a freezer as part of the frig and a second manual defrost unit in the pantry. Manual defrost greatly extends the usable shelf life of frozen food. And the units are very reliable and would save you thousands to spend elsewhere.

  • 7 years ago

    whats wrong with an executive rental? Isn’t that just another way of saying expensive?

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Thanks for your comments all.

    Pantry idea: That's actually a good point. I thought we would have enough cabinetry but that may be the better idea to move the mudroom somewhere else, or we eliminate the coffee bar column next to the garage door and build another vertical column of cabinetry? It would be an open pantry if we had it where the mudroom is right now.

    Fridge: https://www.ajmadison.com/cgi-bin/ajmadison/RS36A72J1N.html

    That's the current fridge unit we picked out for the "budget" version.

    We thought about adding a fridge drawer down the line by having regular drawers in the island removed and changed out: https://www.ajmadison.com/cgi-bin/ajmadison/RB36S25MKIWN1.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cse&utm_term=RB36S25MKIWN1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIiLTz29KG3wIVi4rICh26SAMfEAQYBCABEgKwO_D_BwE

    But thats another 2800 or so in appliance cost that we are spending close to 8k for just refridgeration.

    Or we just go full hog, and forget about brand matching: GE Monogram

    https://appliances.monogram.com/us/specs/ZISP480DKSS#specifications-anchor

    We can get one for 9350. And this is 28 CU vs 20 CU with the FP Fridge (17) and drawer (3)

    The house is 3 bed, 2.5 bath, 2000 sq feet. I am building this with a small family of 3 in mind who works at the hospital or university that is just blocks away. And this house has the whole extended kitchen into backyard concept as a key selling point

    It seems like 17 CU a fridge may be small? Or am I just spoiled and distracted?

    It is starting to seem a lot more logical to bite the bullet, forget about brand matching as long as it is stainless to go with GE Monogram 48" 28 CU for about 3700 more than what I have to spend for just the FP 17 CU fridge unless I am overestimating just how much fridge a family of 3 that entertains truly needs.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    GE Monogram for a family of at least 3, possibly more in 3 bedrooms.

  • 7 years ago
    48” fridge in a 2000sqft home sounds unnecessary.
  • 7 years ago

    I wouldn't worry about brand matching.

    I think a 36" combo unit should be plenty of space for a family of 3.

    Or Miele and a freezer drawer?

    Good luck!

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    I think you might be overthinking this. I would not brand match for a rental unit. I would not do drawers. I’d do a simple stainless 36” fridge/freezer. Do NOT get that fp smart fridge/freezer. That’s just asking for trouble.


    I have a 2400 sq foot rental. The repairman has been out twice in the last couple years to repair the water maker of the ge monogram fridge/freezer. The last tenant dented the ss front. The wolf cooktop glass top was broken. The tenant broke the ge stainless dw the DAY after the warranty expired. She broke the brand new garbage disposal also. I would keep everything simple so that there are less pieces to repair.

  • 7 years ago

    Who cares if the brand is same for all appliances. I care more about it being same color family. I pick my appliances based on the best for the job it is doing for me and not that they are all the same brand as then I wouldn't get the features I'd care about in each appliance. That said my current house mostly has the same brand, but it just happened to end up that way due to budget and features I wanted. The dishwasher is in our case different.

  • 7 years ago

    Id skip a built in and get a standard 36 counter depth.


    If you must have the built in do not worry about brand matching.


    EEE


  • 7 years ago
    You don’t need to spend one second worrying about brand matching. Many, many high end kitchens have Sub-Zero refrigerators and those certainly aren’t brand-matched with other appliances. Get what fits in the kitchen (nice) and fits with your budget (not *too* nice).
  • 7 years ago

    A 36 inch counter depth fridge/freezer will give you a bit ot the sleeker look without the expense of a true cabinet depth or builtin/integrated depth unit. Fisher Paykel, Kitchenaid, Amana, Maytag, and Whirlpool all offer these. The first two have quite nicely featured interiors and Kitchenaid and the last 3 all manufactured by Whirlpool so mostly shared mechanicals.