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Hoping for ID help

7 years ago

These have infested kitchen for last two weeks although they follow us to den also. No fruit or vegetables lying around. No plants in the house. Love the window above kitchen sink in the daytime so I wonder if they are a type of drain fly. They will dive bomb suicide into my coffee. Have had them throw themselves into my ice in cups. I have a spray of dishwashing detergent that I just spray them but I am hoping for a more permanentr solution. I am killing 25-40 of these daily in my kitchen. Embarrassing to tell guests to watch for bugs in their drinks!

On paper towel where I sprayed him

Size reference

Coffee cup left in sink overnight. They do love their caffeine.

Comments (17)

  • PRO
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    I cannot see the rounded, parallel-veined wings of drain flies in your pictures.

    See if they are interested in vinegar or in yellow sticky cards or sticky coils.

  • 7 years ago

    Have tried vinegar and not a single catch. And I have not tried sticky cards but I will. These bugs “scamper” and run over everything until bothered and then fly to next space. Thanks for the response. These have me stumped as to origin, food source and eradication.

  • 7 years ago

    Can you put a clear jar over the drain before the sun comes up (or lights go in) and see if anybody pops up into it when it gets light?

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Adding a drop or two of liquid soap to the vinegar is a must, else strong flies like these will readily escape.

  • 7 years ago

    Thanks, Logician, I did add the liquid soap to the initial vinegar trap as I had seen this suggestion elsewhere. Did not catch any. I have since spotted these outside my kitchen window leading me to wonder if these are outside insects coming in. Our weather has been extremely mild for several weeks. They appear to be dwindling in number but I keep the spray bottle handy with dishwashing detergent to zap them on sight and on the window. They have been a nuisance!

  • 7 years ago

    It has been a month after my initial post. These bugs are still with me. I am posting a picture of them on the yellow sticky card. After two days I have about 20 on the card. Any ideas on what they might be?


  • PRO
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    That is not a bad photo; I will take another look for ID. Some of these small flies seem to have a prominent ovipositor, or other trailing abdominal spike.

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    Nope; the large number of small flies to choose from is just too bewildering. The drain flies would seem to be eliminated as I do not see any residual scales from the struggles on the yellow card.

  • 7 years ago

    Sadly, this is only one card. I have four of these. They all look like this-around 20 or so per card in a two day period. This is becoming more than irritating. I just wish I knew what I was fighting. This is a card from yesterday


  • 7 years ago

    Did you test to see if they come from drains yet?

  • 7 years ago

    I have. They are not. Although they are drawn to liquids left in cups like coffee, milk, tea, etc. I was reading in bed last night and one swooped in and sat on a page in my book. So they do not stay confined to kitchen space.

  • 7 years ago

    Is it cold and snowy outside or do you live somewhere nice with current insect activity?

  • 7 years ago

    A mix-relatively mild winter so far. In the upper South so normal for this time of year. Temps have dropped below freezing for last few nights but in 40s during the day. So yes, insect activity outside.

  • 7 years ago

    Is there any way to get a close up photo of the wings so we can see the veins? Maybe you have a better camera than I do... :)

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    The "scampering" motion initially mentioned by iliykate is a notable habit of phorids.

    Size and humpback shape also match. Identification of breeding site and control could be a major problem.

  • 7 years ago

    Logician, from reading the info on the link you provided, this could indeed be a major problem-and troubling

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Good luck, and thanks for your persistence in keeping the topic alive.