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Does anyone grow 'Vavoom'?

perennialfan275
4 years ago

I don't grow any roses besides for a few Knockouts, but I still like to look at browse online catalogs sometimes. Anyways, I saw this rose a while ago and I'm intrigued by the color. I was skeptical at first with photoshop being a thing and since orange is a very rare color in the world of roses, but after googling this rose it seems legit (most pictures have the same color). What is your experience with this rose?

Comments (24)

  • Tiffandrew-So.CA/9b
    4 years ago
    I grew Vavoom at my previous home. The blooms were truly the brightest orange I have ever seen. I don't have any pictures of it, I'm kicking myself... It was a prolific bloomer but did have some wicked thorns from what I remember. I've actually been thinking of buying one for my Mom because she loves vibrant orange and this rose is indeed vibrant! It's a fun, unique rose and if you enjoy bright hues, I say go for it!
  • nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska
    4 years ago

    I haven't found that it's hardy in my zone 5 garden, even in my protected zone 6 spot, but if you have it in a pot and bring it in you could grow it. It certainly is a very bright orange bloom and I'd love to grow it if it were hardier.

    Cynthia

  • the_bustopher z6 MO
    4 years ago

    I lost my Vavoom to rose rosette disease. It was also quite a blackspot magnet. It did, however, have a bright orange color. This is one of the few pictures of it that I have from a number of years ago.

  • sautesmom Sacramento
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    I bought a 36" tree of Vavoom in 2017 after seeing it in the nursery where it was beautiful. and yes, it really IS that color!

    I have a framework of tree roses in my yard with regular roses underneath, and I put it next to my large mature Strike It Rich, my summer heat champ rose. Unfortunately the bloom color of Vavoom was not as "orange juice" in my garden as in the nursery and it was practically invisible against the Strike It Rich, plus that site has brutal summer sun and Vavoom blooms fried. So I moved it to the other side of the yard which has more shade, and it became nothing but black spotted cramped growth with one sad bloom all 2018. It is getting moved once more to a sunnier spot in 2019--its last chance. Sooo disappointed so far!

  • hcarnevale
    4 years ago

    I also had Vavoom. I loved the bright flowers, but she was a black spot magnet for me as well.

  • Hoang Ton (Zone 8B, Tallahassee FL)
    4 years ago




    Decent bloom quantity, beautiful flowers. Slight sweet fragrance. Yes it does get black spots but so do most other rose varieties. VERY thorny though.

  • perennialfan275
    Original Author
    2 years ago

    I know this thread is old but just wondering if anyone would mind sharing pictures of their Vavoom this year. I LOVE this rose. One of the best orange ones out there imo.

  • Al Mitchell Zone 5b Chicagoland
    2 years ago

    I have grown Vavoom for several years in my 5b chicagoland garden. Its seems to be winter hardy enough, but not overly so. Tends to get blackspot before my others, good rebloom, mildly fragrant. I love the color.

  • Hjj Jjj
    7 months ago

    Was thinking of getting one , i the nursery it seems to be always in bloom . How is it with blooming ?

  • sautesmom Sacramento
    7 months ago

    HJJ

    It completely depends on where you live. Vavoom does not like California Heat.

  • susan9santabarbara
    7 months ago

    Vavoom was one of the worst roses I've ever grown. Having said that, I need to say that I am an orange rose fanatic. So when I saw Vavoom, I thought, yay, a true screaming orange rose! I bought it bare root in 2011 from my local nusery that specializes in roses, so high quality bare root. It had one of the weirdest growth habits; awkward and never bloomed right. The blooms were often mis-shapen. I don't know what more to say about how much I hated it, but it takes a lot for me to ditch an orange rose with this color, and I ditched it a few years later. I live in coastal Calif, and we generally don't get crazy hot temps like Saute. Maybe I got a bad plant. I seem to remember another thread here in the past 2-ish years where many of us expressed the same sentiments about Vavoom. But I'm glad to see all of the folks who say it's a good rose for them. I'm just not going there again :-D

  • BenT (9B Sunset 14)
    7 months ago
    last modified: 7 months ago

    I see Vavoom looking great at the local nurseries all the time, so it must be growing nice somewhere! I’m so tempted to get one, but I have read so many bad reviews for now I’ll continue to pass. What do you think of these roses as possible substitutes for Vavoom

    ?

    Bronze Star. Very beautiful shade of apricot orange, large bloom , good fragrance. A bit slow to repeat, and could use more bloomers per cycle, but that seems like a minor problem compared to what folks say about Vavoom1




    Tangerine Skies - looked terrific at my local nursery, decent fragrance.. still might get this one!





    Just Joey- somewhere between orange and apriicot, definitely a softer color, but what an amazing garden performer, one of my very favorite varieties. Huge blooms, highly fragrant, quick and heavy repeat, dense ideal plant habit. More a creamy apricot in summer, but in the spring and fall can be dazzling coppery orange:





    Chris Evert - the brightest rose I’ve ever grown, molten lava orange with reddish edges. Excellent rose for hot western climate! Able to produce quality blooms that dont burn in the most miserable summer heat.



  • Ryan Coastal LA Zone 10b
    6 months ago

    I have a Vavoom I got own root as a band. It’s done well. It’s a slow grower, and since it will stay small anyway I’m fine with that. It may be one of those roses that is healthy own root but BS prone grafted because my band has given me four blooms an a 10” plant after just 4 months, and it’s been been free of mildew and BS.

    I also like the fragrance. It’s moderate but a nice tea that is always there. My Just Joey produces very peachy orange blooms that are very fragrant until around noon, and then I smell nothing.

  • susan9santabarbara
    6 months ago
    last modified: 6 months ago

    Ryan, that's so great that you're loving Vavoom as an own-root! I'll be interested to hear how it does over time. I looked at it in the potted rose field at the local nursery the year before I bought it bare root, and it looked fine. Then I grew it.

    Ben, have you ever grown or considered Veldfire? I'd been circling around it for years, and finally got it from RU ~4 years ago. I have a kind of love/hate relationship with orange blends... some I love, but many I can't bear the way they fade. It's the reason I never got Chris Evert, since every time I saw her at the nursery, I didn't like her faded blooms. But Veldfire has been spectacular... great form and substance, good fragrance. Just Joey is one of my all-time faves. I was offered Bronze Star from one of my trading partners, but declined after reading HMF, but I was very tempted. IIRC, Tangerine Skies is a climber, so that's out for me, but I love the blooms.

  • BenT (9B Sunset 14)
    6 months ago
    last modified: 6 months ago

    Susan

    I’ve heard great things about Veldfire, I remember Hoovb used to have great pictures of it on her blog. So far I’m loving Bronze Star, perhaps my favorite color in the the whole orange/apricot bunch, good fragrance, reliable size and repeat. Not a profuse bloomer, but quality and beauty over quantitiy. Oh and you were right about Radiant Perfume, so much wrong with that one, but it is very deep yellow and very fragrant, so I don’t regret the purchase.

  • Ryan Coastal LA Zone 10b
    6 months ago
    last modified: 6 months ago

    Susan, I feel the same way about most of the orange/peach roses—they fade into some monstrous weird combination of colors. I was happy my Just Joey blooms don’t do that. So far my favorite in this color range—which is my favorite—is Tahitian Sunset, which in our cooler temps was always the perfect peach/orange I want, but Just Joey is very close second. This coming heat wave may change that though.


    I actually got Bronze Star at the same time as TS..TS has been a stronger grower (both are own root) but the blooms on both were very nice. I think I’m going to like both equally eventually but so far Tahitian Sunset has my heart for it’s color and bloom count.


    @BenT (9B Sunset 14) do you still grow Outrageous? It always looks tempting in the catalogue pictures but some HMF pictures look mostly pink.

  • Ryan Coastal LA Zone 10b
    6 months ago

    Oh and speaking of strong growers my Just Joey, which I ordered at the same time but received later from Heirloom, just shook off its “I’m too small to ship” woes and put out three basal breaks! Praying it has enough energy to keep them all through this heat coming up.

  • BenT (9B Sunset 14)
    6 months ago

    Ryan

    Those basals look great on that young Just Joey. Overall, I like Just Joey best of all the apricots, I think Tahitian Sunset is one of the best, too.


    Outrageous was always bright orange for me, never pink. It has a somewhat yellow reverse but overall impression is very orange. The plant stays quite small, I don’t believe blackspot resistance is good, but I always sprayed. I grew it in Texas and liked it, I’d certainly consider growing it again.

  • susan9santabarbara
    6 months ago

    Ryan, your basals on Just Joey are fabulous. I think I love seeing a new basal even more than seeing perfect blooms, given what it means for the bush! Good to hear from both you and Ben that Tahitian Sunset and Bronze Star are winners. There is something about Just Joey that melts my heart. Coincidentally, Jusy Joey is the same color as our cat Joey (who went over the rainbow bridge last year at age 15), even though our cat was named for Joey Ramone, and I didn't notice the similarity in color until later. Major LOL on Radiant Perfume... given its color and fragrance, it has my name written all over it. Despite ditching it years ago, I still occasionally get tempted... I tell myself "maybe I can make this work", despite that not being the case :-D

  • Kristine LeGault 8a pnw
    6 months ago

    I got Radiant as a mistake from J&P . It was supposed to be Brigadoon

    Anyway, for fragrance alone it gets to stay, in a pot

    The blooms are large and a pretty yellow and boy does it smell wonderful

    I guess that I need to check out Just Joey


  • Jim Parker
    last month

    I've grown a few vavoom roses. They really are traffic cone orange, a startling color that frankly looks fake. Mild fragrance. Problem: Vavoom seems to be quite vulnerable to "orange rust," a leaf fungus that will not only kill the vavoom, but also will spread to other roses. I no longer grow them for this reason, but it's nice to look at them in various garden stores.

  • sautesmom Sacramento
    last month

    Yes mine gets horrible rust  and black spot every year, which is why it's been growing backwards.

    Carla

  • SoCalGardenNut
    last month
    last modified: last month

    I have one as a standard, i like Just Joey much better. i don't have black spot nor rust and it‘s in full sun.