Training of Evelyn from rosemary_0226:

Bayareagirl, that is absolutely fantastic . I only have ONE climber and that is Peggy Martin which is barely a yr old. Your thread gives me a lot of insides . Tons of information as to how. Thank you so much Bec this will certainly benefit me a lot .
Thanks again :)
jin

woah. Now I have some instagram accounts to follow. I love the design on the brick house, that kind of artistry with plants is really inspiring.

I am definitely saving this thread for my future climbers. Got to sign in to say this. Amazing !!
jin

The Japanese gardeners on IG blow us all out of the water. Obviously, nothing dies to the ground every year.

I have the same old question I always have with climbers like this. Unless you're as athletic and agile as a trapeze artist and no fear of scaling the sides of houses, how does one prune these sky scraper roses?

Jaqueline, who doesn't post here anymore, grows roses like this covering a lot of her 3 story home in California, if I remember correctly.

Helen, if you communicate with any of the Japanese gardeners on IG, would you ask them to identify their roses, pretty please? Some do, but most do not. They're probably mostly Japanese bred that are not available to us, but it drives me crazy.

Holy wow!!! Incredible. (And, I love seeing both the in bloom version & the bare cane version - really helps to visualize it.)

Gorgeous pictures. I especially like them when they are bare. I like clean, newly pruned roses almost as much as the plants when they are in full bloom.

Living sculpture.

flowersaremusic, I listed their instagram names so you just need to go to their instagram accounts:

https://www.instagram.com/rosemary_0226/

https://www.instagram.com/masakazu.kawata/

You can read their comments to see the names of the roses, but if you don't see the roses' names, just add a comment under their picture asking for the roses' names. Helen

Thanks Helen, those pictures are amazing, makes me want to go outside immediately start to train my Evelyn.

I was relieved to see that even on her obelisk, there some canes crossing...just like mine =)

Thanks, Helen. I follow both of those accounts and one does identify her roses, but the other doesn't. A lot of people don't identify their roses on IG, but the gardens in Japan are so exceptional, I am curious to know the types of roses they grow.

I have asked, but have never gotten a response. I thought maybe you would have better luck if you are a frequent commenter. The best I can tell, they like Austin, Tantau and of course the Japanese bred roses that I hope will someday be available to us.

flowersaremusic....one secret to the Japanese rose gardens is that they use a lot of fish and seaweed fertilizers (I think this was mentioned in a recent thread). I think that may be part of why their foliage looks so good and everything looks so lush.

I have just begun training and pruning my baby climbing roses. I have been absolutely ruthless with them!. My one year old Lamarque had put out about 15 very long and sturdy canes by the end of last summer! I cut out 10 of those, leaving only 5, so that it wouldn't overwhelm the 9 foot teepee I'm growing it on.

Because am squeezing a lot of roses into a relatively small space, I have been really interested in learning more about pruning and training. I find it incredibly fun and rewarding.

Before these forums, I never knew that a climbing rose would bloom more the more horizontal the canes are.

Here is my first attempt at rose training. This is Madame Ernest Calvat, a very easy rose to train...it's extremely mannerly. (please excuse the deer fencing!)

One of my plans this year is to train two Nelly Moser clematis with 2 Quicksilver climbing roses on a south facing wall of my white house. They will be trained on wires stretched horizontally.

This is the wall:

That half moon window is an eyesore. My house is old, and that window is modern, doesn't match any other windows, and is off center. I want to soften the look of it by surrounding it with climbers.

We are installing the wires next week. I will post pictures. Wish me luck :)

Roselady, I cant wait to see how it turns out. Maybe I will get inspired to try a climber.

Your house is super cute.

flowersaremusic,
Have you checked out the wildflower-seed company?

They carry a 'cut and hold telescopic pruners with pivot head' that extends from 6 feet to 10 feet. Thus you should be able to reach up 15 feet or more depending on how tall you are. Add a step ladder to that and the sky is the limit….

They ain’t cheap 124.00 but they are a great tool. I have the shorter version and love it. Once you clip off something it does’t fall as part of the clipper holds onto it. By turning the pruner 180 degrees anything clipped off will fall so you have the best of both worlds….

toolbelt....I really, really want that pruner! But I told my husband I would not spend any more money on gardening this month :)

Rosylady, I can‘t wait to see what your house looks like over the next few seasons. One of the best things about this forum is getting excited to see how other gardens grow too!

Also another person who didn’t know about training the roses horizontally so thank you everyone for tha extremely helpful piece of information!

Rosylady, you are so right about the fish related products the Japanese gardeners use. I believe I was the one who brought that up. Of course, their soil, climate, and skill of the gardener all play a major part.

I didn't know about training climbers horizontally either, before coming here. There is a wealth of information here and all the truly lovely people are a bonus. Your deer fencing looks like wire that you can grow climbers on, also all kinds of vines. Mine is poly mesh and not nearly as nice looking.

Toolbelt, I am looking into those pruners. Thank you!! I fret over every single cut, so I would have to be a lot less persnickety pruning roses that I can't look at from every angle. It would be a miracle for roses to grow to those heights in my zone, but I'm always hoping there's a rose out there, somewhere that will cover my arbors.

Telscopic pruners are the bomb. I've used them for year with hedging and trees, but mine are very old and wooden so a bit heavy. It would be nice to have something lighter weight. May I ask, Rosylady, how tall is your deer fencing and what is it exactly? My deer, twins foaled in my yard, are bound determined to be in my yard and destroy all my attempts, but obviously I can't give up.

Rosylady, I did wonder about that window as I remember you have an old house and immediately thought about "fixes". Of course, yours is the best as it puts the attention on roses! That will look fantastic. I did wonder if you could have muntins made forfor the inside and out it so it looks more original. I have similar on my 100+ yr. old front door. It would look funny without them. However, yours doesn't look bad, just modern.

vaporvac...the deer fencing is only 7-8 feet tall. I live next to a strawberry farm, so the deer here are not too aggressive since there's lots to eat. So far it has worked, since last year they ate my roses all through the winter months. This year I haven't seen evidence of them at all inside the enclosure....but I have seen lots of footprints in the bed just on the other side of the fence. It is made with peeler poles (those poles you get at the garden center to grow your pole beans up) and hogwire. The hogwire looks good and lasts a long time, but it's heavy. It was a bear to install.

That is a VERY good idea about putting muntins in the window!! I have a great carpenter who works on our house sometimes. I will ask him about that.

I Try to keep my upright growing climbers limited to 3 healthy canes at a time. Horizontal blooming climbers I fan out the branches and cit out old games every 5 years. My climbing roses roseshttps://www.flickr.com/photos/herblady49/albums/72157623170582559

Let me know if works outs. I also have an online friend that posted how he built his Palladian

windows so your guy might be able to use some of that info if necessary. Just try to put on both the inside AND outside for the best look, but I'm sure you're already on it! ; )

Cathy, I'm looking forward to spending some quality time with your photos! ; )

Cathy, where have you been hiding?? What a magnificent garden and superb photography. Thank you so much for sharing your roses. I will view your photos over and over again, gleaning as much as I can in how you've trained your climbers, placement, spacing, everything. May I ask what zone you're in? If it's z5, I might as well give up. I blame my cold zone for all my failures.

I love seeing the off-season plants. It helps me have perspective when I’m training them up.

Rosylady, you will love that pruner. When extending it make sure you get the little catch thingie in the extension holes or it won’t work. Mine extends in 6 inch increments.

PS. Less than 2 weeks before NEXT month begins so you will be free to start spending again…. lol

bayarea_girl, most of my ZDs are horizontal along my 3 foot high fence. They put out tons of laterals so I end up with tons of blooms. The ones on the deck bloom mostly at the top.

toolbelt....our anniversary is at the end of this month...maybe I can get that pruner as a gift :) Also, I can't find the pictures of your Zeffys....can you post some?! I would love to see pics again.

Here are some pics including a couple from toolbelt.

https://www.houzz.com/discussions/my-zeffy-hasnt-leafed-out-yet-dsvw-vd~5299196?n=35

https://www.houzz.com/discussions/other-roses-the-color-of-zephirine-drouhin-dsvw-vd~4174930?n=15

https://www.houzz.com/discussions/zephirine-drouhin-dsvw-vd~5325381?n=28

Rosylady, here are a couple more. I must admit that most of my Zeffy's are now close to 20 years old and these pictures are not the latest. In fact this Spring I plan on doing some serious pruning on a lot of them. If they don't shape up then out theygo and new ones will replace them. Enjoy....

Thank you for the links and photos! Looking at all those ZD's is just what I need this time of year :)

Grace Rose Farm just posted their first blog with rose pruning info and video https://www.gracerosefarm.com/blogs/news/rose-pruning . Very helpful. Helen

Another before and after pruning pics from nobuko_rose in Instagram. Rose name: Francois Juranville. Helen

Yall!!!

This is such a helpful post, thank you! Well, quite honestly, the posts are all helpful or inspiring in some way... but I digress. Most of my roses are in their “leap” year, so I have a lot of trepidation about cutting any of their precious growth off for fear I will do it wrong. This post was so helpful for me to have good visuals. Thank you! :)

More training examples from masakazu.kawata on Instagram. Helen

More training examples from masakazu.kawata. Helen

Karen, he is amazing. I love the multi colours if roses on the wall but I dare not see the complications of the network...so many types of climbers he has. He is very talented for sure to do all that.
Thanks for showing. I have to find him on Instagram just to see his work.
jin