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Help! I don't live in a McMansion!

7 years ago

I've always been stymied by too-big furniture when shopping for my home, which is a 50s-era ranch with small rooms. It never occurred to me, however, that kitchen ranges would pose a problem. My old smoothtop was a quarter century old and I decided it was time to go for a new one with some better features, but, due to the small size of my kitchen (10 cabinets which need to be used for small appliances, dishes, utensils, towels, and all other kitchen paraphernalia -oh, and food) I really make use of the bottom drawer on the stove. All of my pots and pans fit in there (which tells you, I don't have a ton of them). However, in checking the new stoves, I noticed the ovens were all large enough to cook Hansel & Gretel within, and the drawers have shrunk accordingly (despite the fact everyone - except me - has a microwave and doesn't even do all their cooking in the oven, as do I - and I still don't need an oven that large). I measured the drawers on the models I was looking at and they were at least two inches shallower than what I had. I went around the store opening every drawer and then found one by the same manufacturer as my old one, with a drawer that looked bigger (because it was black coated steel rather than raw steel - it was an illusion). I should have measured it - my fault; probably the salesman, who knew my predicament and that I was searching for a bigger drawer, should have at least suggested measuring it if he didn't realize all the drawers were the same. But no dice. So today they deliver it and voila, now I have this new stove in my house with no room for the p&ps. I gathered up a pile to donate (not that I really want to be rid of them, but...) But the sauce pans are now on the floor covered by a napkin open to the dust, the dirt and the dog. YUCK. I can't hang them from the ceiling in a tiny kitchen. I have no pantry. I have not got a MILLIMETER of space in any cabinet or anything to rid myself of to put pans in there. I haven't got room for another cabinet or the like. Does anyone have ANY suggestions for those of us who live in small houses and just want to keep a normal variety of pans and not have them piled on the floor??? (PS the salesman, when I went back to make sure the store model really was the one they delivered, said he keeps his pans in the oven and that lots of people do that. ??? A hassle and a hazard - not about to do that.) Sorry for the length of the post - but I am really bothered by this!

Comments (26)

  • 7 years ago

    I keep my large soup pot in the garage...but I have a side door off the kitchen that opens into the garage.

    sullific thanked lisapoi
  • 7 years ago
    Maybe try Craigslist and Facebook marketplace for people selling older ranges with the larger drawers, or a Habitat for Humanity Re-Store if you have one of those in your area....?
    sullific thanked iamtiramisu
  • 7 years ago

    We also have a small kitchen (smaller than yours - I would love to have 10 cabinets :) ). I use the closet in the bedroom across the hall for extra storage on the big stuff, like the meat grinder and Oster roaster. I also use the bottom cabinets in the china hutch for other big stuff, like the crock pot and food saver. My Kitchenaid mixer is actually on a shelf in the china cabinet. If I didn't have that extra space available, I could store all these large but regularly used items in the garage.

    sullific thanked cooper8828
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Will any of these ideas work someplace?

    Back of a door perhaps?




    Other ideas







    sullific thanked rantontoo
  • 7 years ago
    Here’s what we do in our small kitchen. I had to downsize the number of pans we have but we make it work.
  • 7 years ago

    My kitchen is tiny. It has/d a space above the stove for the MW. I use that for pots/pans/bowls. My very small MW is on the counter. When I moved here I needed to buy everything "new" so I color coordinated all of it. (Green, pastel, turquoise, mint etc). If I needed more storage I would likely use the hall closet that is reasonably close to the kitchen. I have also seen roll away "islands" that have lower cabinets that might also work.


    (I am still amazed at what BIG spaces that people seem to need in this country. I have about 1100 sq/ft, it seems huge to me as a single person. I raised seven children in an 1800sq/ft home).

    sullific thanked User
  • 7 years ago

    Bri, that is a lovely kitchen,

  • 7 years ago

    I used to live with a tiny kitchen. Like less than 10 cabinets. I stored pots and pans in the oven and more stuff in the very small linen closet. Was it a PIA? Yes. But I cook and used my stuff frequently. You get used to the inconvenience.

    sullific thanked 1929Spanish-GW
  • 7 years ago
    I noticed the same thing when I got my new stove a couple of years ago. I reorganized where I stored things and purged some items. Now I store my baking sheets in the stove drawer. If you post a picture, maybe we can suggest more ideas.
    sullific thanked Molly
  • 7 years ago

    just received my new stove and it is the same.. very shallow bottom drawer and they call it the warming drawer.. maybe use it for your sheet pans only and reorganize somehow to fit your other pans.. it could be a new thing.. and even though i have a microwave I don't use it to cook - just melt or warm things up...

    sullific thanked fifamom
  • 7 years ago

    Hi Sullific, sorry about your predicament!

    We remodeled our kitchen a few years ago, keeping essentially the same footprint but utilizing spaces more efficiently. One thing that took a lot of time and thoughtful consideration was where we wanted to store things in the new cabinets - to help us determine the right sizes for drawers, etc.

    In that process, we ended up moving things to a completely different place in the kitchen - everything was put in the most logical place, not necessarily where it was before.

    Is it possible that you can rearrange the storage in your tiny kitchen so that something else goes under the oven, and the pots and pans find a new home? As part of that process, you may find things in your kitchen that are no longer used regularly, and can be purged or relocated to a different part of the house (I used to keep our big stock pot in the laundry room).

    Good luck to you.

  • 7 years ago

    This may be a helpful solution - I could perhaps find some flat cookware (pie plates, cupcake tins, cookie sheets, loaf pans, etc) that would fit under the stove, and perhaps be able to find some space for pots in the cabinet where they now reside - I am not great at thinking outside the box and your suggestion (despite all my years of rearranging and trying to make the most of limited space) isn't one I thought of...which is why my only good idea was posting on Houzz! Thanks so much.

  • 7 years ago

    Thanks to everyone, I am amazed at all the suggestions! And I knew that not everyone has a big kitchen (most of my friends have galley kitchens smaller than mine). Of course, I have:

    -No empty wall space

    -No closet anywhere nearby

    -No garage

    -No dining room, no hutch, no china cabinet

    - Space above stove where most have microwaves has stove hood

    - I have already purged and as far as Kon Mari? My remaining few saucepans and skillets bring me JOY!

    But I do think as some have suggested that I might be able to rearrange and perhaps switch the pots and pans out with some other cookware.

    If I am able to get a clear one of the entire area I will post a photo, but I do think the switcheroo is the best possible solution.

    Thanks to all for letting me know I am not the only one with small house issues!

  • 7 years ago

    Good girl! I am glad you have worked it out. And small can sometimes be GREAT. From a 5' mama who had a 5' daughter who now has a teeny tiny daughter. Small but FIERCE!

  • 7 years ago

    yes, you are going to have to think outside the bottom drawer of the range.

    I was never a fan of hanging pots and pans. Unless they are kept clean and shiny, they are akin to hanging laundry. And, if they are against a wall, they will destroy the wall if you are one who actually uses them. A lot of them that I see in photo shoots appear to be hung so high as to make it hard to reach and seem to be more about decor than about use.

    Since you say that you are already down to the essentials in your kitchen, you have no choice but to find storage for rarely used items that may be quite remote....even under the bed.


    When it comes to paring down to the essentials, one thing that I have found is that just when I feel that I have pared down as much as I can, I find a new layer of stuff to peel off. You may need to go deeper.

  • 7 years ago

    fifamom, one wonders why that drawer is referred to as a "warming" drawer. I have never seen any heating elements in it. In my lifetime of experience I have never seen anyone use this drawer for anything more than keeping the likes of sheet pans or lids or something like that.


    Thinking of getting a new range and will be looking soon. I have had one with the second smaller oven built in and the new one needs that, too. The small one far outweighs the large one in amount of use! There are often unused pans and cooking sheets in the large one.

  • 7 years ago
    i did have a warming drawer in a range fora few years. it was helpful for holiday dinners. but, really a pain to get down so low to lift out loaded casseroles.
  • 7 years ago

    I already have things on my kitchen cabinets, and the drawers under the bed are stuffed. Yes, really, this is a small house! It's like how they're always painting the Golden Gate Bridge? I finish purging and I have to start again before I finish. But I really hate getting rid of things I like or find useful. Life would be much easier with an attic! Or a garage! I do have a full basement - but had to convert half of it to living space when I got married. The other half basically is "the garage"!

  • 7 years ago

    Some ranges have warming drawers, while others, like our GE profile range, have a baking drawer (1200 watts?). However, we have never used it for baking, and its a little too short to use for much storage. Appliance features continue to evolve and expand.

    Bruce

  • 7 years ago

    Well, I have never seen one as such and have never known anyone who had a real warming drawer. Apparently, they are a real thing. But, they must not be that popular or that common.

    One can see why they would be awkward

    Going to look at ranges. Curious if I will find any warming drawers.

    What I want is the second small oven. My range right now has no drawers.

  • 7 years ago

    Our 5 yr old GE Profile has a warming drawer. It is not meant for baking. The touch control is also labelled "Warming Drawer" I have used it for keeping a casserole or pizza warm while making more in the oven. Usually when we have a house full. But large cookie sheets fit in it if you need it for storage. So any large pans should fit, or casserole dishes.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    What about toekick pullouts for at least your frying pans? And something like this over your refrigerator?


  • 7 years ago

    I have a small kitchen too. I put my sheet pans and muffin pans in the oven drawer. I stack my pots and pans and store them in the cabinet that way. It's a pain to get them in/out, but I've grown so used to it that I don't even think about it anymore. You could put some things in a pretty basket/box on top of the refrigerator.

  • 7 years ago

    Years ago I had a range without a broiler. Until one day when I had to call the company to find new knobs, and they told me the drawer had the broiler! Yep, it sure was, and it worked, It was probably 30 years old when I lived there. Boy, that was a tiny kitchen.

  • 7 years ago

    Many years ago we lived in England and where we rented had a stove that had a flip down broiler that sat above the burner elements, in much the same position that is now occupied by microwaves. It was the neatest thing! It was open and accessible so it was easy to use and I used it a lot!

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