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Beetle Kill blue pine disappointment

7 years ago

Has anyone tried white washing beetle kill Blue Pine? Would that technique help this wood look better? I'm so disappointed in how dark it's turning out.
When we were looking for wood for our ceiling which runs across the loft and great room and deck, we decided on beetle kill Blue Pine. When we were looking at the showroom display and online we saw this beautiful wood that we thought would look good for our ceilings. We had it delivered and when they started installing it I realized it was going to be a lot darker than any of the wood we had seen when we were looking at it before building. I don't know if it's just a lot of dark batches that we happened to get, but I am so unhappy with the way is turning out. I envisioned my dream house having the pretty wood we saw when we were searching for ideas like the first two pictures. Never at any time in the showroom or peoples pictures online did I see the wood look this dark and ugly. I don't think there's anything I can do at this point, because we purchased the wood already and it's being installed. If I knew that down the road it could be whitewashed and look pretty, I could live with it until then. I'm not sure what I can or should do if anything. Don't even know if you guys can help me, I guess I'm just looking for encouragement. I feel sick about this.

Comments (62)

  • 7 years ago

    I think when you get more up you will see more of the lighter color. It is a beautiful product. Here is a picture from Pinterest and you can look for more there.

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    7 years ago

    Are you still planning on decorative trusses? What material will they be made of? You are going to have a really busy ceiling.

    Unfortunately, this material is better suited to the inside of a barn than as a finished ceiling in your house.

    My suggestion is white paint. Stop the install, paint what's on the ceiling now, paint the remainder before install. But painting requires sealing the knots, priming and then applying a finish coat or two.

    If you don't paint or whitewash, it still needs a finish, unless you are going for that live in a barn look.

    Now is the time to fix this.

  • 7 years ago
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    Why paint that pretty wood? I would just finish it with a clear coat and clean it up, it but let it show its colors. If not why buy blue wood? but I would stop the installation.

  • 7 years ago
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    Stop the install immediately.

    You need to finish the DESIGN first, instead of being so pinball reactive to everything and bouncing from one idea to the next without tying anything together. Or thinking through the consequences of bad reactive decisions. Like installing expensive unfinished wood and thinking you'll "fix" the issue later.

  • 7 years ago

    This is mostly what we saw when looking at the wood before purchasing. I never saw such dark boards till they installed it on the house.

  • 7 years ago

    Is it possible fresh cut is lighter? Maybe a wood bleach could help? I am just totally brainstorming but if you are truly unhappy I would stop installing it until it is figured out. Did you look through the boards and see they are all dark? Or are there variegated batches and you got a lot of dark ones?

    https://www.for.gov.bc.ca/hfd/library/documents/bib94923.pdf

  • 7 years ago
    vinmarks, I felt between a rock and hard place. I guess it boils down to money and marriage, to be honest. My husband hates my indecisiveness through this whole process, which is why if I had to do it over again, I'd never build and would have to do it a different way. Every time I want to make a change it costs money, and we have a budget. This would have been a huge cost since we already bought the wood and are already way behind getting into the house.
  • 7 years ago
    galore, thanks for injecting some humor
  • 7 years ago
    They are varigated but so much more dark pieces than I anticipated.
  • 7 years ago
    Kathy, I couldn't pull up your pic...
  • 7 years ago
    We weren't planning on"decorative" trusses. Not even sure what you mean?
  • 7 years ago

    It gives different methods of bleaching a study done in 2005 to remove a lot of the blue. There may be better methods now. Some caused a yellowing of the lighter part.

    Here is a portion and the summary.




    I hope you can read it.

  • 7 years ago

    From what I’m reading whitewashing would be the route to go if you want it lighter. Latex Primer mixed with a lot of water but get profession advice.

    ‘Here is a sample of before and after on a table

  • 7 years ago

    honestly - I would continue along (making sure to remove the stamps / ink marks!) and I think it will be a statement. Otherwise - it's just a plain ild ceiling. Add some uprights to brighten things up and show off that color.

    that before / after on the tables above makes the whole idea of the color variation a moot point and I would DEFINITELY not do that.

  • 7 years ago
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    The tables look to be very white which I think can be controlled on the thickness of the whitewash. It would take making samples to figure it out. Personally I like the blue but it is hard when you expect one thing and it turns out another. It is a matter of preference. The tables were also lighter blue to begin.

  • 7 years ago
    just_janni, what do you mean by uprights?
  • 7 years ago
    Kathy, thank you. If my ceiling looked this good, I wouldn't hide it. It's just the many dark places all across it for which I'd even attempt it. The one you show her is what I originally saw and fell in love with the wood. I'm going to try to like it, and hopefully my white Walls and light kitchen cabinets will soften the darkness. But seeing I have options
    down the road helps me relax right now.
  • 7 years ago

    Unfortunately when your dealing with natural products there is going to be variation. We've used wormy maple to make several different pieces of furniture in our house and no 2 boards were alike. Some had lots of dark staining others had hardly any staining.

    I'm surprised there is no finish being put on those boards. We live in a log cabin with lots of pine. Interior walls that weren't log were sided and everything had a matte varnish applied to it.

    Maybe once your house is done and everything is in you will grow to love it.

  • 7 years ago

    There is a product/stain called Penofin that comes in a lighter color and they have used it on beetle blue pine if you decide to finish it. They used Verde or Mist colors. Maybe googling it would help.

  • 7 years ago

    sorry - up-LIGHTS (dang autocorrect). Shine more light on the ceiling to lighten it up - don't do it with stain.

    I think that dramatic lighting can help here, instead of abandoning your vision.

  • 7 years ago

    I like it, I'd just install it and leave as-is. Sometimes things look different when you get it or in your setting, especially once all of your choices have to harmonize together. See if it grows on you, then worst case put a different finish on it later

  • 7 years ago
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    It has to be sanded and finished BEFORE it is installed. You're not doing that upside down on scaffolding like it's the ceiling of the Sistine. You can NOT install unfinished wood.

  • 7 years ago

    I think what your getting is pretty.

  • 7 years ago
    I love blue pine, we used it extensively in our last house including the backside of our island. Just tested with a matte clear and left the runlines and holes.
  • 7 years ago

    Brad, I would have been thrilled to have mine turn out like that but as you can see by my pictures it's much darker in many spots.

  • 7 years ago

    You've all been very helpful. I am going to try to take the dark with the light, the bad with the good, and look forward to moving in, knowing that down the road there are some alternatives if I still don't like it. Just as in life, if I don't focus on the dark places, I feel better about it. Thanks for all your input!

  • 7 years ago
    Brad, if mine would have turned out that great I would not be complaining. That's what I was hoping mine would look like, more evenly distributed.
  • 7 years ago
    Remember with a natural product, especially one that underwent chemical processes from the organism, “evenly distributed” is not very realistic. I think your ceiling is spectacular. Can always stain or paint down the road if you are unhappy. Live with it, I’m sure it’ll grow on you.
  • 7 years ago
    Your lumber is beautiful, you are worrying over nothing. Let it go, it will be fine.
  • 7 years ago
    Looking at your ceiling I am jealous how deep and abundant the blue is. It isn't super common to get that much. I went through a whole batch to get the most blue I could out of my pine and I could not even come close to what you have.
  • 7 years ago
    I am going to do as you guys say and enjoy it! Thank you so much. that does make me feel better.
  • 7 years ago

    You have something that is truly unique and a fabulous product from Mother Nature. Embrace it and love it. If you work with it as you finish the house, I honestly think it will be spectacular.

  • 7 years ago

    I think it looks beautiful!!

  • 7 years ago

    I agree with others. It looks beautiful!

  • 7 years ago
    It's gorgeous! I bet you come to love it with time
  • 7 years ago
    vinmarks, yes, I studied how blue kill happens before we bought it. Just didn't know you could get a batch as dark as I got. I will include the story about the beetle kill when I tell about our house to people.
  • 7 years ago

    I hope you post pictures when your house is done and everything is in. I love the ceiling.

  • 7 years ago
    okay I will try to remember to post pictures! Good idea.
  • 7 years ago

    It is beautiful! I love the color variability! I would not white wash it! Stop doubting yourself. It is way more interesting than a monotone wood ceiling.

  • 6 years ago

    We are currently building and putting beetle kill pine on our ceiling as well. Can I ask what kind/color of flooring did you put in? I'm worried it's going to look dark in the room with the ceiling so probably should go light?? Are you liking the ceiling now that you've had it for awhile?

  • 6 years ago

    We are building right now as well, and looking at the beetle kill pine on our cabin ceiling as well. What color cabinets and floor did you go with? Would love to see some pictures.

    I am also indecisive and not sure how it will look!!

  • 6 years ago

    I think it looks gorgeous! Wow. Just built a beetle kill pine barn door. This wood is spectacular. You are blessed to have a ceiling like that!

  • 6 years ago

    Did you use it on your ceiling?

  • 5 years ago

    I have beetle kill throughout my home, remodeled attic all in beetle kill, doing my bedroom ceiling in beetle kill. I'm always looking for boards with more blue. I finally found boards with red and green in them. Your ceiling is beautiful, love all the blue.

  • 4 years ago

    My freaking builder order an entire house of this stuff and I hate it. I am also trying to see pictures of it white washed when I stumbled across your post. 😩 Just saying at least it is one ceiling and not your entire house.

  • 4 years ago

    Hi Carlotta,

    Long story short, my builder also bought us the blue pine beetle. It was purchased before covid and we are now finishing the build. I was very concerned about the steaks looking dark or blue and the orange standing out with a clear oil stain. I didnt want to go too dark so stayed away from colored stains. We ended up using a clear but it is water based and the steaks look light grey which I like better. I will let you know how it looks when they install it starting this week.

  • 4 years ago

    LOL..it is our entire ceiling as well!

  • 3 years ago

    Our builds are very similar and we used blue pine for our ceiling also. We used a water based sealant and put 16points of black in it. It toned the yellow color down and gave it a more neutral color. You can whitewash it the same way. I will be using the same sealer and stain for the trim work. I love your patchwork colors. It opens you up to so many options for decorating :)

  • 3 years ago

    @Violet Wilson, that looks great. Can you tell me what sealant and stain you used? Thanks!