I was thinking 'Sweet Chariot', but now I'm leaning toward 'Rouletii', or maybe one of the "found" Lawrancianas, if you wanted something small and old.

:-)

~Christopher

Oh, I just thought of some other possibilities.....

'Cinderella'

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.1182.0

'Baby Betsy McCall'

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.479.0

And to elaborate on "found" Lawrancianas.....

"Picayune"

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.32038.2

"Oakington Ruby"

http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.4513

"Abbott and Burns Family Rose"

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.78578

"Dolly Dudley"

https://rosepetalsnursery.com/rose.php?pid=659&cid=20&rose=Dolly%20Dudley

"St. Thomas China"

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-H24gldJOxaU/V866ZD-GtVI/AAAAAAAAUww/UnxQDtiWA2gvjyl26FNxaH-mmiN-HDp7gCEw/s1600/0906yStThomasChina.jpg

https://www.areverenceforroses.com/St-Thomas-China-roses-p/st.-thomas-china.htm

:-)

~Christopher

P.S. What actually IS the correct spelling? I've seen:

Lawrenciana

Lawranciana

Lawrenceana

Lawranceana

:-/

~Christopher

Where did you find that lovely urn anyway ?! Can’t wait to hear what you do with it

Christopher you are always such a fount of knowledge!

Dianela I have apricot drifts in the front yard and they get some shade. I think they would look as great as yours if they got better sun !

Thank you all so much for all these great suggestions!! I like the non-rose ideas too. If the rose doesn't do well, I'll try something else. I've had the urn for about 10 years now. Fortunately, it has a very drainage hole in it, which is why I decided not to turn it into a fountain like sultry suggested. I went out and measured the narrowest part of the opening and it is 9 inches. I think I can squeeze a rose into that if it's on the small side.

There are so many great suggestion here, and so many great pictures. Dainela...your pictures are beautiful. I love your row of ground cover roses planted together. I have the Faun and if it were scented, I may have tried it. I think that if the rose is elevated up in the urn, people will be apt to smell it, and I don't want them to be disappointed :)

erasmus...that is such a sweet rose trailing out of your pot! It has the perfect weeping look. I would like some rebloom though as it will be in a prominent (yet to be determined!) spot.

Christopher....I will have to do some research on the Lawrancianas. I've never heard of them! I have tried to grow little grocery store minis in pots and they never do well. Maybe these Lawrancianas would be much more garden worthy plants.

Green Ice...I've heard of this rose but never actually seen a pic. It's really pretty! That would definitely be a more unusual choice which would be nice for a focal point pot. I notice that Palantine carries it. Can you imagine me trying to to fit a palantine grafted rose into that urn? hahaha! granted it's a mini, but I'm sure it it would still have some serious roots.

Sweet Chariot and Little Chap would both be good if I go for a darker bloom. It's good to know that Little Chap blooms continually for you, flowersaremusic.

Malorena....Marie Pavie ticks all the boxes. Including the part where I "stuff it in there" That's exactly what I'll be doing! hahaha That may be the easiest rose to get a hold of as well. ARE has it in stock right now.

Is anyone familiar with Marie Pavie's darker pink sister, Marie Daly?

Oh, and Lily...I bought the urn at a local store that sells all types of new and antique home goods. I bought two other much larger urns at the same time (which I'm planting with purple fountain grasses this season). All of these urns were marked down because no one would buy them! The garden style here in the PNW is more Asian influenced and more modern. But I used to live in England, and I love traditional, formal, and romantic :)

Burling also carries green ice.

It sounds like you may be very close to choosing a rose for your project. I think it will be very beautiful.

I second the idea of petunias in urns...The new prostrate petunias have great mounding/cascading habit, and are much tougher than the traditional petunia. They have the perfect habit for an urn, and you will get a mound of color from March through November (while roses are my favorite plant, no rose can approach that sort of flower power)

My favorite thing for a large urn is a Tidal Wave Petunia. Below this (obscured) urn is 32” tall x 20 wide. The big ball of blooms is nearly about 5 ft in diameter

The stronger pink in the pic is ‘Tidal Wave Hot Pink’. The foreground lavender-white is ‘Tidal Wave Silver’. They are the most durable petunias I know.

In different years, I’ll change up the colors a bit, but it’s always petunias where I want big color

Been, I love your petunias. They are beautiful and love the entry way leading to your main door looks so neat and inviting. Now, you got me checking out some of the petunias.
How many did you planted in the urn to have an effect like that ?
thanks !
jin

How beautiful Ben. Thank you Likyfinch for this great idea and Ben for sharing how beautiful they look. I don’t have any in my garden and didn’t even know what they looked like until this post. I think they are very beautiful and now I have to go research them during my coffee breaks at work.

I have ferns in a set of matching urns. Autum fern would be lovely in that.

Ben - those petunias are amazing!

Ben, I love your use of the Tidal Wave petunias . They have so many different colors to choose from and last all the way into lat fall for us.

How many did you use in each urn ?

Yours look particularly full and lush.

Your home looks like a picture out of Home and Garden. Really beautiful Ben !

Wow Ben! Those petunias are gorgeous! Yes, I would like to know how many you used per urn too. You have a truly green thumb. Everything you grow has the great combination of looking lush AND manicured.

I grew Ducher in a large pot for quite a few years. I loved it and it seemed to love that situation. It bloomed it's fool head off, and it's such a pretty little white rose.

For a long time I thought Marie Pavie was a small growing plant but mine eventually got about 6' tall. Maybe it would adapt to a pot, I don't know. Marie Daly is also a pretty good sized plant.

I like petunias in urns also.

I really like your urn...whatever you put in it will probably look good.

Ben, your photos are always inspiring. You gave me some good advice a couple years ago that I wrote down and keep with my garden notes. I couldn't find a single one that you suggested, so I ended up using calibrachoa. I'll be searching for Tidal Wave and Supertunias again this year. The plants in my pots must require as little fussing as possible, saving precious time for the roses.

I was gonna reccomend petite pink scotch as well. I knew Linda would have a beautiful picture.

How about red cascade? Only downfall is scent.

I think I'm going to give Marie Pavie a try. This is a rose I've wanted for a while now, so if it doesn't work I'll plant it in the garden. I've decided to place the urn on a small stump that's in one of my rose beds, so it will be elevated, and extra dramatic :)

I will post update pics once it's planted and the urn installed!

Roselady, try to find out who carries the Marie Pavie with fuller blooms. There’s apparently two different versions of Marie Pavie out there, one with more petals than the other. Unfortunately, I don’t know who carries the one that’s more petal packed. If you like the fuller blooms, it would worth finding. Lisa

My MP from ARE was not very full. However, that could be because it was new. I wish I had known about the two versions when I ordered it. Hopefully, Moses will pipe in as I think he's mentioned this also. Thanks for the reminder, Lisa.

Oh yes...I remember hearing about this awhile ago! I was planning on ordering it from ARE. The picture on their website does show a more single looking rose. I can't remember on which thread this topic was discussed. Was it on a Marie Pavie thread?

I've had 3 Marie Pavie for 8 years and they (along with Mme Jules Bouche) are the workhorses of the White Garden. They came from Vintage Gardens so I'm not sure which type they are. They bloom for a long time & are trouble-free here.

I wanted to update and say that I ordered a Marie Pavie from RVR. Their picture showed the much fuller MP...and I figured it would be much easier to plant a band in the pot than a larger size rose from ARE.

smithdale...I ordered a climbing Mme Jules Bouche....I hope she's as great as the bush version!

comtessedelacouche....I wanted to say thank you for introducing me to a rose I've never heard of, and would have never considered before: green ice. I absolutely loved the pics I saw on HMF!! I bought two from Reverence for Roses. I am going to grow them in pots as well.

My Marie Daly from Roses Unlimited is indistinguishable from Marie Pavie, color-wise. In hot humid mid-Atlantic zone 8 Marie Daly has better foliage health and is more shade tolerant.

Sweet Chariot is a monster here, at four plus feet wider than most polyanthas! The only thing "mini" about it is the size of the blooms.

The Fairy is a nice healthy one with the effect you are looking for. The Fairy has very "Victorian" looking flower heads, it also looks nice in arrangements to give a vintage feel. Marie Pavie is as well but I have seen the plant become huge although the flowers are minis. Apricot Drift also because out of all the modern "big box store" roses this one is the most old fashioned looking to me!

What about one of the Kosters?

The double, lavender-blue Wave petunias hit the bliss point with me last summer. Planning to get some this spring.

Some garden writer (Henry Mitchell, Sackville-West?) mentioned how they planted a trailing plant in the ground next to an urn-type container and trained it to trail over the urn so that it looked like it was growing out of it. Maybe someone mentioned this technique up-thread.

vaporvac...the koster roses are really pretty. They kind of remind me of Pomponella...the pink one does.

monarda....well that is just genuis. It sounds like something Vita would do. I think I may try it!!

Some URN-spiration for you, taken in June at the gardens of Leon Ginenthal, aka Der Rosenmeister, Ithaca, NY at the Syracuse Rose Society's visit!

bumblekim...that is very pretty! It seems petunias are universally loved for planting in urns.

A further update on my rose-urn purchases: I bought two Sweet Chariots to plant in large hanging baskets by my front door. I'd never heard of that rose until this thread! Thank you

Roselady, I just looked up Sweet Chariot, what a cool rose

The bloom is so sweet and the color, wow, my fav.

I cant wait to see how it turns out

Hope I am not too late to chime in. I would highly recommend Vineyard Song. I think it is a much better rose than Sweet Chariot (at least in my garden conditions). It would be beautiful! HMF Vineyard Song

Burling carries it as do some others. I absolutely love this little gem of a rose. I received a band from Burling last fall and it has just taken off like crazy! No diseases at all. Flowers are beautiful! Not the world's best picture. It was taken in November of last year. It still was a baby band that I had planted. It flowers in clusters and they are just wonderful!

Hi Rose Lady,

I love your urn, I think Nigrette would look beautiful in it. Nigrette is a small bush that reaches 2ft. In height. It is considered finicky and slow growing. I have one in a pot and I love the almost black color. I think it might do well in zone 8.

A rose tree with a weeping China Doll as a tree foot cover would look great in that urn........

when I read this post all I could think of was The Faun. It’s such a perfect example of what you’re looking for.

Pit has old fashioned blooms with a button eye. It’s very floriferous. It has a beautiful cascading habit and is a small rose perfectly suited for your urn.

My second vote would be for Sweet Drift, Cream Veranda, or Bolero.

Rosylady,

I agree with the posts above that anything you put in that beautiful urn will look great. I read in another thread that you picked up all those gorgeous urns from a neighbor who didn’t want them anymore...what an incredible find that’s beautiful high-end pottery, and very funny that she’ll still be looking at her urns for years to come.

For those who asked about my petunias, I put 2 per urn...those Tidal Waves get very big very fast, a single plant spreads over 4 feet. They are rather hard to find, and I dislike starting those tiny seeds, so I take cuttings and over winter them under lights.

My urns are in the front of the house, so I want color 365 days a year. In the winter, I substitute with pansies and chard:

Wow I LOVE the pansies and chard!!!

What did you end up planting in it? Please share some pictures.

Yes, inquiring minds wanna know lol. You know what happens around here if I leave an Urn empty for too long lol....

Sultry, I am laughing out loud at your great pic. And now I'm thinking that one of our cats might do that, too. But not two of them. That must have been a big urn. Did you find any eggs in the urn? Diane

Diane, no those were silly roosters. 😂

I dont know what they found so fascinating about that urn but they were getting into it every day lol. Probably trying to entice some hen to some lay eggs in it.

Yes, my cats would all pile up in there given the chance too. They like snuggling up and sleeping together in cooler weather. In hot weather no so much. The cats are smart enough to stay away from roosters though. We used to have a pomeranian who wasn't smart enough to stay away from amorous roosters haha. Lets just say he learned quickly.

Oh, no Sultry. I should know roosters. What an idiot I am. I agree that the roosters probably wanted to entice a poor hen into the urn. I've had many a rooster chase me as a kid, and I agree with your smart cats. Stay away from those guys. Poor little Pomeranian. Diane

They are pretty roosters..with their fancy silver gray coloring and fluffy butt feathers they are often mistaken for hens :)

I can't believe it's been six years since I asked this question! Thanks for inquiring about an update. I wound up planting a band size 'Marie Pavie' from RVR in the pot. This is quite a large container, and I hooked up drip irrigation to it. It did very well!

This was planted before I even made the garden beds around it! A close up:

Here is the pot a year later in 2020...

Poor Marie was a bit neglected in the fertilizer department, but still doing quite well!

In 2022 the rose was still doing pretty well, but stayed small. The garden around it had grown so much it was hard to get to the pot during the season and check on the irrigation. Sometimes it got knocked out of the pot and the rose would begin to look a little bit yellow. Then we would stick the emitter back in and it would grow again. What a tough rose 'Marie Pavie' is!

There is the pot next to the tree...engulfed in the picture by clematis 'Huldine' and phlox 'Mt Fuji' (which is the absolute best phlox ever in the history of the world!)

Then in April of last year, tragedy struck! The tree stump the pot had been sitting on finally rotted enough that it couldn't support the weight of the cast iron pot and it fell down in a windstorm.

Luckily when it fell, it missed the 'Sheila's Bouquet' and 'Ducher' under it!! At this point, the 'Marie Pavie' was quite pot bound, and we couldn't extricate it from the pot without tearing most of the roots off...so Marie went to rose heaven.

The pot is now sitting in the flower bed, but on the edge in a prominent position, awaiting it's next planting which will happen this spring.

So, now we are back to square one: what should I plant in this pot now?! Hahahaha!

I will take another picture tomorrow of it's new home. Thanks for reading all about my saga :)

Petunias lol Farewell Marie, you had a good run. Thanks for keeping us updated on how it all turned out

Rosylady, I enjoyed reading about the saga of the urn! Marie Pavie did look gorgeous spilling down the side of the urn. And your garden looks so lush and beautiful.

Not sure if this is too mundane of a suggestion, but what about white thunbergia? Their dark centers might look nice against the color of that iron urn.