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So what happened with Earth Angel?

7 years ago

I remember awhile back this rose was talked about enthusiastically and frequently and now I don't see it mentioned at all. Did it turn out to be a dud?

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  • 7 years ago

    I love mine too. It is pretty new to have much to report yet.



    pippacovalent thanked Kristine LeGault 8a pnw
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    Lilyfinch and Kristine your Earth Angels are looking amazing. I love mine also, they grew 3-4 feet from a band their first year. I am looking forward to seeing what this one does this year. Pippacovalent this one is a gorgeous, healthy Kordes with an amazing lemony scent.




    pippacovalent thanked dianela7analabama
  • 7 years ago

    Oh that's great to read they are doing well!! Its such a lucious looking rose and I was thinking of trying it.

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    It is luscious looking! Everytime I see it on a nursery website I wish I had gotten it this year!

    pippacovalent thanked sara_ann-z6bok
  • 7 years ago

    Is Earth Angel good for cutting?

  • 7 years ago

    I was surprised at how fast they grew. It was reportedly a very small rose, so I planted two close together, then had to move one because they quickly grew into much larger bushes than I expected. Both are still doing fine. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it even for cold zones.

    Depending on the weather, they can be pink like this or white.

    Karen, if I remember right, the canes are long enough for cutting.

    pippacovalent thanked flowersaremusic z5 Eastern WA
  • 7 years ago

    I agree it was great for cutting . It takes a while to open which is really nice !

    pippacovalent thanked Lilyfinch z9a Murrieta Ca
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    Thank you! I am looking for a good pink rose to complement pink peonies in a bouquet. Earth Angel sure fits the bill.

    pippacovalent thanked KarenPA_6b
  • 7 years ago

    beautiful flowers. But I remember someone mentioned the bloom size is small...

    pippacovalent thanked Oliver (SF 9A)
  • 7 years ago

    This coming season will by my EA's fourth. It needs to repeat more, and if it does, I can say it is nearly a perfect rose. I call it the taller, big brother of Bolero. However, Bolero doesn't quite have its disease resistance, but beats Earth Angel for repeat blooming thus far for me. I find Earth Angel's individual blooms to have more poise and substance, lasting longer than Bolero's. EA is powerfully fragrant, but not as fragrant as Bolero. Bolero's fragrance absolutely wafts.


    Moses

    pippacovalent thanked Moses, Pitt PA, cold W & hot-humid S, z6
  • 7 years ago





    Earth Angel (above) was beautiful in the spring for me, but the repeat bloom was slow and poor. She was indeed fragrant and long lasting too, but if I started anew I don’t think I’d include her. Sorry to be the party pooper on an Earth Angel thread, but I’m a much bigger fan of Bolero

    pippacovalent thanked BenT (NorCal 9B Sunset 14)
  • 7 years ago

    Love mine too. We had somee unusually wet cold weather this winter and it balled. It never has before but we arent normally cold and wet, we are warm and wet, in the summer and it didnt ball then. The flowers are normally beautiful so I'm getting another one.

    pippacovalent thanked sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
  • 7 years ago

    So essentially what I'm hearing is ...get both Earth Angel and Bolero...sounds good to me lol :)

  • 7 years ago

    Wow, everyone’s Earth Angels are so lush & pretty! Can I ask how old they are since planting?

    pippacovalent thanked MAD zone 9b
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    Oliver, I believe it was originally described as a small bush and small blooms, then we were all surprised at the long canes shooting up, the eventual size of the bush and especially the large blooms. Not Yves Piaget or Paul Neyron large, but larger than we were expecting.

    Mad, this will be the 5th year for mine. Photo was taken 3rd year.

    pippacovalent thanked flowersaremusic z5 Eastern WA
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    I like EA, but it did ball horribly last year after some really wet weather. I think I posted photos of it on this forum, but can not locate those photos on my cell. Essentially, the whole plant was covered with a few dozen brown balls.


    the picture was when it is good. Absolutely stunning. Now imagine they are All rotten, brownish balls! This one is either extremely good or extremely bad in my garden. I am hoping it will get better as we buried under it our cat who passed away two years ago. We are stuck with this one

    pippacovalent thanked User
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    Ben,

    It may be that EA is a cooler weather lover, pooping out in heat. "But your EA's poor repeat in your W. PA cooler climate does not support your statement.", you may say.


    My winters are tough for sure, but I have a scorching city microclimate during the summer. My garden is nestled between heat radiating tall buildings that creates a very hot climate, mimicking desert conditions (except for the satisfactory rainfall here), from June to August, when Earth Angel slumps. However, EA's black spot resistance is phenomenal here in black spot 'Ground Zero', and I have a few new strategies to try this year. I don't want to give up on EA just yet.

    One strategy is to limit the canes to only 3 basal canes, cut down farther in spring pruning than normal, to only 6-8" each, not my usual 12-14" . Next is to deadhead back farther all season long to force the bush to grow new laterals from thicker spots on canes. Feeding it more to compensate for forcing growth with a high phosphorus # too, will be tried.

    Moses

    pippacovalent thanked Moses, Pitt PA, cold W & hot-humid S, z6
  • 7 years ago

    I've had Earth Angel for 2 years now. It did not grow at all the first year, staying about 6 inches tall and produced all of 2 flowers and a branch suddenly died, but the plant lived. Last year, it grew to about 1 foot tall, and produced about 4-5 flowers. The first flowers smelled awful but the last one smelled very nice. I'm keeping it to see if it's just a slow starter for me. Like Moses and BenT, I'm a bigger fan of Bolero. But if it finally starts to grow and produces flowers that look like the one that Flowers posted, it will be worth it.

    pippacovalent thanked noseometer...(7A, SZ10, Albuquerque)
  • 7 years ago

    Farmer duck .. that is so interesting.. I know you have very high humidity too . I really hope next year is better for you .

    Noseometer , I hope yours gets better too!!

    Ben , how could you say you wouldn’t include her after posting those pictures?! lol. Well that’s ok we all have different tastes . Mine is so much better than my eden that it is next too , maybe that’s why I love it so much .

    pippacovalent thanked Lilyfinch z9a Murrieta Ca
  • 7 years ago

    Lilyfinch, Ben, Kristine, Flowers, Dianela, farmerduck - wonderfull pictures!!!

    I received a nice sized bareroot of EA 2 years ago from Edmunds. I loved the fragrance - similar fruity scent to First Crush. It was completely disease free for me - an incredible feat for this area. My only gripe was the dirty appearance of the outer petals - they never really looked like a clean white or cream. I have not replaced it after it died last winter likely d/t the few late freezes we experienced. I want to replace it and grow it in an area with some afternoon shade but if it doesn’t have very good repeat for those of you who have had it for a few years, I don’t know if I will do that.

    pippacovalent thanked Dave5bWY
  • 6 years ago

    I have a space that is 5 feet wide and 3 feet in depth. Can I put in two earth angels? That probably means 3 feet center to center. I like fuller look but I want to make sure they have the space needed to grow. I live in USDA4, but actually 5a. Long snowy winter and mild short summer. Thanks!

    pippacovalent thanked northlandyogi_mi5a
  • 6 years ago

    Northlandyogi, I think 3' on center placement would work fine. They might mingle just a bit, but still have good air circulation. Mine are both bushy, but upright with strong canes. I think they look like Eden's little sister. They have beautiful foliage - big, deep green, glossy leaves. They should do even better in your climate than mine. Similar winters, but blazing summers here. Some of her leaves got scorched this year in triple digit heat. After I removed all the burned leaves, she still looked full. Good luck. I think you will love them.

    pippacovalent thanked flowersaremusic z5 Eastern WA
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    I bought two from Fresh Garden Living--she and heirloom both seem to sell out of them pretty quick! One of mine has two enormously long canes; I'm planning to peg them in a dome shape so they'll not lollypop as much. I think they're very pretty!

    pippacovalent thanked Aaron Rosarian Zone 5b
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    Aaron, I just ordered an Angel too from same supplier. Can't wait to see it and get it in the ground. :)

  • 5 years ago

    I have a pair and I love them. I find their repeat not so bad for me actually, and blooms are beautiful! Super healthy as well. Zero spots. My problems with them are: 1. They grow to be very large bushes. Mine are 1.5 years old from bare root and are huge. 2. They pump way more buds than they can handle. Mine were covered in literally hundreds of buds each, and some prematurely drop or fail to open properly with regular amounts of water and fertilizer. Now that I know tho I would start giving them extra water+fertilizer from the moment they set buds. Madame Anisette also has this problem for me.

  • 5 years ago

    Beautiful pictures Minshen, how big are yours? Do you prune them?

  • 5 years ago

    Stopandsmelltheroses — Thank you! Mine are about 5 feet tall and wide each. Because they’re so young I’ve only done minimal pruning each year. I’ll do a hard prune this winter tho!

  • 5 years ago

    I have 7 Earth Angel rose trees and I love them. They repeat pretty fast for me. Here is a pic of one of them (with a little midge damage). Now they all have tons of buds.



    Showing off a candelabra I just created. A candelabra + a chandelier.+ Earth Angel bloom. I wish I have more blooms at this time. :-)







  • 2 years ago

    My Earth Angel is year three and the blooms all hang down like they’re too heavy for the branches. Does anyone else experience this? It’s also balling I guess. I have waited forever for the blooms to fully open but they do not. Just hang down more and more.

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    Melissa the blooms are very heavy but mine does a good job of holding them up. Is your earth angel 3 years own root or 3 years in your yard but grafted? I ask because it makes a difference here. I have grown this plant both ways and it matured faster grafted from palatine. The own roots took around 4 years to be spectacular. Are you pruning it a bit every year? It takes a while for the branches to be tough enough.

    Here you can see some flopping but most are held up. This one is 3 or 4 years grafted


  • 2 years ago

    Yes it is own root from Heirloom. I too was thinking it probably needs a couple more years. I do prune it but mostly just the winter kill.

  • 2 years ago

    I miss Pippa and Sara Ann

  • 2 years ago

    Here is my Earth Angel, Dianela.

  • 2 years ago

    EA is a monster in my garden. I had purchased it as 2 ft Patio standard and it has evolved into 8 ft monster. I cut it back in summer and again in fall and it reaches 8 feet in no time. 10% blooms ball but still has great show.




  • 2 years ago

    At my last garden it took about 3 years for my two there to really take off - that was also when they finally got big enough to peek over the small fence they were behind and get more sun. In my current garden my two new ones are starting off in full sun and establishing much faster with bigger flowers and good scent already in their second year.


    Mine are all own root from Heirloom Roses. If Tututara’s amazing EA is an example of what happens when they are grafted I’ll stick with own root - it’s a beautiful monster but I don’t have the space!

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    My Earth Angel bloomed the first year and was heartbreakingly beautiful last Fall, it came from Northland Rosarium. I think good stock must have something to do with performance.

  • 2 years ago

    Melissa yours definitely looks young still. It is probably due to your much cooler zone. In my very warm zone 7 it took over 3 years to get nicely stablished so I expect it will take a bit longer on a cooler zone. It will definitely be worth the wait tho, it is a beautiful and healthy rose.

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    @Tututara Zone 7 your earth angel is SPECTACULAR. I keep mine heavily pruned but I always thought it could make a nice climber

  • 2 years ago

    Dianela thank you for the encouragement! I thought that was the case but it’s good to hear it from someone else.

  • 2 years ago

    I am very pleased with mine. I actually liked it so much that last year I purchased another one. There is a lot to like. Vigorous own root even in clay soil, not too thorny, and the blooms are ravishingly beautiful. Visually, the blooms read as white from a distance, which is fine with me because I love blush-white flowers. Note, the flowers will ball but not as bad as Clotilde Soupert or Souvenir de la Malmaison. Besides, that is the price you pay for this kind of floral decadence. Stems could be thicker. I get a good bit of nodding but I am hoping this will improve with pruning and age. Fragrance was light the first few years but now, wow, it is strong and delightful. Foliage is resistant to disease here in black spot hell but come August it will spot up without the help of organic sprays. In less prone areas, could be grown no spray. Plants get big when happy so make sure to account for the size.

  • 2 years ago

    Here's my pathway of earth angels leading to the house. 10 bushes in total and most are 2-3 years old. They just love this spot. Thick 1/2 canes and loaded with buds. I do prune them through the summer to keep them bushy. Ignore the kids toys.

  • 2 years ago

    Beautiful!