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Who likes full wall oven under kitchen counter?

7 years ago
wWoes anyone have a wall oven under their countertop and like it? I purchased a GE profile series size 30" wide by 27" tall 24" deep. We are planning our kitchen layout on a 14' wall which includes dishwasher, sink fridge, and oven. A 36" stove top will be in center island. There will be little space for base cabinets. We are planning to build a butlers pantry in dining area. This will greatly reduce traffic through the kitchen. I can supply pics. The decision I am not sure of is, should I place the wall oven in a full size cabinet with a pull out drawer underneath and the oven up higher at eye vision height, or give myself more countertop space and place the oven down low under the countertop? I have always had a tiny kitchen with slide in model. I have never had a wall oven. I cook a lot although I am now 50 and my children have all left the nest. I do not use my oven very often maybe because in previous tiny kitchen I mainly use it to store my pots and pans. The underneath drawer was always inadequate. I am 5'5" and I have seen issues with the ovens placed too high. our hpuse is a log cabin and I would like to leave the upper shelves open to give more space. Really not sure. I would like to hear everyones opinion if setting the wall oven under the countertop placed it too close to the floor.

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  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    The best height is one that does not require you to lean over very far to use the controls or lean over to put pans in/take them out of the oven cavity. (Keep in mind that pans are usually quite a bit heavier once they have food in them -- it's not like storing an empty pan.)

    The real idea of a wall oven is to put the oven at a more functional height, not less functional. After all, if the lower height is OK, then why not just get a range -- it's less expensive and you don't lose the counterspace you're worried about losing?

    For most people, that means mounting the oven higher than you find in a range but not so high that you have to reach too far up for the controls or pans.

    We considered an under-counter wall oven when we remodeled, but our KD showed us one installed and we immediately nixed the idea. The oven is lower than the oven in a standard range and, when open, the oven handle barely missed hitting the floor. Now, we are a tall family, but even my 5'6" mother thought it was much too low.

    In addition, as you get older, do you really want to have to lean so far down?

    I recommend you go somewhere to see one installed and take a heavy pan (or pan with something in it to make it heavy) and try to "use" it.

  • 7 years ago

    Ovens that are part of a range are designed to be accessed at their low location. Even then, some people dislike having to bend down to get to the oven. On the other hand, wall ovens aren't really designed for under-counter installation. They frequently feel too close to the floor. They also often vent hot air just where you are standing (although that can differ between models).


    If you have a wall oven, I would normally recommend installing it at about counter-top level or no more than a couple of inches lower. You could also install it a little higher, but if it is too high, again, it becomes difficult to access.


    On the other hand, if you think that you only use your oven very rarely, then obviously none of these considerations matter much. For the once-a-year turkey, it really doesn't matter if the oven is somewhat less convenient to access.


    On the other hand, if you do have an easily accessible oven, you might realize that it can be used for a lot more than just roasting turkey. Many commercial kitchens use ovens for the bulk of their cooking. It's a great option for slowly braising foods. Much better temperature control than using a stove top. It also can be used to keep dishes warm before serving.


    Personally, I find that after having learned about the usefulness of an oven, I actually need more than one oven to efficiently cook larger meals. Of course, for simple everyday meals, all of this is moot, and I can do with whatever limited tools I have access to.

  • 7 years ago
    Thank you! The oven handle hitting the floor was something we didnt think about. Even the box stores are displaying their wall ovens under the countertops. They advised me against installing it that way but never explaned why. I have already purchased the appliances and i am just lucky to be able to make them fit. Lol yes that was the two g way to plan a kitchen. The original kitchen was placed in the opposite side of room in a u shape with very little space. The plans to swap the dining room and kitchen were made to make more room for the appliances and it worked better to our advantage. we now have room for a large island in the center of kitchen where the dining table used to be. The old kitchen space is going to be a butlers pantry will coffee bar and large cushioned booth style table. Thank you again.
  • 7 years ago

    Funny that you'd mention swapping dining room and kitchen. That's exactly what we did. We went from a rather awkwardly shaped kitchen, to a beautiful and functional galley kitchen. Unlike most galley kitchens, we actually managed to have a functional island by placing it just outside of the core part of the kitchen. It does double-duty as an extension of the dining table in our new dining room. I love just how much better things flow this way.


    The island gave us a place to install less-frequently-used appliances outside of the kitchen but still within easy reach. In our case, that meant that we put the freezer under the island. The space that we gained allowed us to install proper wall ovens.


    Of course, as you customize the space, things do get more expensive. That's always a problem in remodels. But this is likely to be our forever home; that makes it easier to justify doing it "right".

  • 7 years ago
    I did a 30” under counter oven and a 36” cooktop in a previous kitchen. I needed the counter space too but wanted the bigger cooktop. That and I have an extreme dislike of the crud that accumulates under and around a range. It is a bit more bending than the range oven, though it never bothered me and I used my oven a lot. If you’ve used a front load washer without a pedestal and disliked that, you may not like the under counter oven either. I’m 5’10” for reference.
  • 7 years ago

    My daughter did a GE wall oven under her 30 inch cook top and loves it. She is only 5'2". Works for me too. 5'4". I haven't heard her husband complain. He is 6'.

  • 7 years ago

    I have a Miele 24 " CSO and a Miele 30:" oven next to it and both are under the counter. I love the placement.

  • 7 years ago
    A HUGE Thank You to everyone. Yes we will be installing the oven under the counter. We will be doing most of this work ourselves. Very slow but we know we will be happy withthe results. Going slow has allowed us time to give the space alot of thought. By separating the oven and the cooktop will also allow 2 people to work in kitchen without one blocking the oven. I LOVE auctions. Recently found an excellent old butcher block. I suggested we use it as the countertop above the oven. Saves the counter from heat damage. I will post pictures soon.
  • 7 years ago

    We went from double ovens to ovens flanking our range top under the counter. There's a toe kick drawer under each oven. Great spot for an extra oven rack, broiler pan or large trivets. Ours kick to open so no bending to pull open. We like the counter space above the ovens.

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