It is probably a W. Murcott since that is what was meant to be sent

Steve

What makes you think it’s a calamondin Denise? I am not home so I can’t photograph the murcott, but if I remember correctly, the leaves are bigger than calamondin. Here’s a pic of one of my calamondin bushes.

Laura, when I got the tree last November, I noticed it was different from anything that I have received before. It's beautiful, has a compact canopy with dark green leaves and I have no problem with the quality. Just have doubts about the variety. I have 11 mandarins and you can see a definite difference between the size of leaves and the tree itself. A lot of the leaves are about 1" long. Some leaves are a bit bigger but not much. The leaf nodes are really close together on the top of the tree which are not new from the time I received it. I just found 2 tiny fruits and they are growing like the picture you posted which is straight out towards you. The blossoms are very tiny, clustered and have a very sweet scent. When it arrived in November, it had a small fruit, which fell off during shipping, at the bottom of the box. I didn't pay too much attention to it and just tossed it out as it was still green. I think I should have looked at it a bit more closely.

It look compact like the tree in this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5VjRScIYIo or even this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FQwhdicB1E even this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJT8tgQAgLc

A year ago I purchased a Owari Satsuma from a Garden store on a whim. Its put out a fair amount of fruit, but always golf ball sized and super sour. I figured it was just young but looking at these pictures I'm wondering if I bought a Calamondin as well. Oh well, I'll just have to think of something to use them for.

Not sure if this will help, but here are some pics of my calamondin. I haven't really noticed any fragrance from the tiny flowers, about the size of a peppercorn!

The pictures are great and I appreciate them very much. I hate to ask, but I am wondering what are the measurements of the typical leaves on a calamondin? My tree is supposed to be a premium mandarin (3 year old tree) so the leaves should be mature and much larger in comparison to my other mandarins. I have a range of leaf sizes on the tree. Many are less than 1" which I find odd, but most are 2.5" L x 1.5" at the widest point. At the end of the branches are the smallest ones. Again this is suppose to be a 3 year old mandarin and the youngest mandarin trees I own is an entry level LeexNova and even it's leaves are larger than the so-called Murcott. The shape of the 2 trees are nowhere close in comparison for mandarins.

I am suppose to be in Atlanta twice next week and am trying to make the opportunity to meet Kelley Lyons while coming or going. I think I will take my little tree with me and get her opinion as it's driving me crazy. I did email Four Winds Growers about this and am still waiting for a response.

Denise,

I wouldn't spend too much time measuring leaves as a method to find out for sure what tree you have, Citrus leaf size is quite variable, even on the same tree. Leaves tend to be bigger in low light or on the shaded side of the tree. You may already see some distinct differences in the photos of calamondin leaves already posted here. You may ultimately have to wait for a fruit since many citrus are difficult to ID based on leaves alone.

John, if you have a bunch of mandarins and get something that is also suppose to be a mandarin, but it isn't, you notice a difference. Waiting until it fruits could take forever due to the fact that citrus trees have natural times to drop fruit. I have 2 now growing, but if they drop between now and November, I have to wait another year to get this resolved.

Oh, I get your problem, I'm just not sure if leaf length will resolve it. Maybe try smelling the leaves or, well, I'm not sure how to tell the difference. Maybe someone has a murcott to share photos from.

A picture of a premium W. Murcott from Four Winds Growers would be ideal.

So sorry Denise - I was on a bachelorette trip in Nashville this weekend and was slightly indisposed lol. Here are the pictures of Denise’s tree:

Hmm. Are those pics posted above by Kelley the tree in question? That's a nice tree. Nice gift. Wish I could add more than just a quick guess. I've never had a Murcott, but have WAY too many calamondins to look at everyday. I'm not sure why, but for some reason that tree up there just doesn't scream 'calamondin' at me. Beautiful tree however.

Thank you Kelley for posting the pics. Yes, that is my tree. The photos don't give you a true idea of the difference in leaf size and structure compared to a mandarin. Some leaves are no larger than my pinky finger's fingernail.

Denise - do you by any chance have a "Tango" mandarin tree to compare? From what I understand, Tango is an irradiated form of W. Murcott and am curious if they would normally look similar to each other except for the fact that I think the Tango fruit are seedless.

My Tango, which has been a struggle since I got it from FW back in 2017, does get a mix of those smaller leaves, larger pointed leaves, and leaves that are rounded at the tip instead of pointed. It also has leaves that tend to curl under although I have seen that habit in other mandarins - notably the Shiranui/Dekopan, and that one really has much smaller leaves than the Tango. Kishu was another mandarin that had smaller leaves.

Here is the Tango from a pic taken back near the end of January (I have it overwintering in my basement) -

Jenny, you are right. I forgot about the Tango and the W. Murcott being the same. I will put the trees next to each other and compare. It rained this morning and I have to take my husband to Atlanta today (oh joy as the traffic is horrible) so most likely I will compare them more thoroughly tomorrow. Thanks for the reminder. I didn't get the Tango from FWG and it's about 5 years old.

Yep, I have a Shiranui too and they don't look similar either.

I don't know if it is because it is in ground outside, but my Calamondin has brighter, lighter green leaves. Not this dark green that I see more on my navel orange.

KC