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Kitchen Cabinet Repainting Texture Sub Standard?

7 years ago
Hi, we hired a contractor to repaint our cabinets, and this appears to be the final texture. It has that orange peel finish. Is this up to par for a contractor? The colors are ultra white on top, light gray on bottom. I want to be an informed customer and ensure we’re asking for a finish that’s reasonable.

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  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Were you there to see how they did this? I'm no expert, but I've painted enough cabinets to know if you're DIYing, you should use a self-levelling paint, foam rollers/brushes and take the doors off the cabs. Best case scenario, they take them off and spray them in the shop after prepping them properly.

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    What prep and process did you agree to, and did you see samples of his work? This is not what I would have wanted.

  • 7 years ago

    Your post uses the word “repaint”, so I am wondering if this was the texture before it was repainted, it makes sense the texture would remain, unless the contract addressed that.

  • 7 years ago
    They are doing spray finish on the doors and drawer fronts to ensure a manufactured finish. They have solid customer reviews but I did not see up close in person samples of their work to paint the base cabinets. I have asked them to provide me details on what type of paint they used (I would expect self-leveling as well) and I know the painter did not use a mini foam roller which I was surprised about. I thought maybe they were going to use it on future coats, but now I think I need to make sure. Thanks for comments so far, this really helps us make sure we get to a resolution.
  • 7 years ago


    They are doing spray finish on the doors and drawer fronts to ensure a manufactured finish.

    Sorry, I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying that the pictures are showing the finished product after spraying?

  • PRO
    7 years ago
    it's bad but he should have told or you should have asked about finish
  • 7 years ago
    We hired a company that only paints cabinets two years ago. We had medium oak cabinetry. The finish is smooth and perfect. They removed our cabinet fronts and sprayed them at their workshop. They obviously sprayed the rest at our home. They had tarps over everything that wasn’t getting painted and it was a very messy process. Two years later the finish is like the day they were finished. I use a water and Dawn dish detergent when I need to wipe them down.
  • 7 years ago
    Regarding “repaint” comment, the cabinets were previously painted, but the finish was clearly smoother, the more manufactured finish you’d expect. There’s a visible difference from what was there previously.
  • 7 years ago
    And we did agree to expectations that prep/cleaning of the cabinets was part of the process. The pictures I’m showing here are the cabinet base (doors and drawer fronts
    have been removed and taken to the shop for spraying). Is it unreasonable to expect a professional finish on painted cabinets from a contractor, or are some saying that this type of finish is to be expected if it wasn’t clarified up front before the job started?
  • 7 years ago
    Here’s a wider shot of current state for context. All the above pics are of the sides and front facing external surfaces of the cabinet base.
  • 7 years ago

    I wouldn't be happy with that. They could have sprayed the cabinet boxes too, they just have to use plastic sheets to make a "spray booth" to surround the area they are working on.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    I want to be an informed customer and ensure we’re asking for a finish that’s reasonable.


    That comes before the work starts.


    What does your contract say about how the cabinets will be finished?


    The contract should also specify the materials used -- the exact paint, for example.

  • 7 years ago
    @PPF of course, and we discussed professional, manufactured finish with the contractor before signing. But the contract itself doesn’t say that specifically, which is what I’m worried about, so, trying to find out from others who are more experienced with this what standard expectations are and what recourse there might be (or not). Things are not sour with our contractors right now, and I’m confident they’ll work with us on this. Again, key is wanting know what we have room to expect in terms of finishing. We do get a “punch list” as well. We are first timers at this kind of project with a contractor, any/all helpful advice is welcome. Thank you!!
  • 7 years ago

    If key is wanting to know what to expect in terms of finish, tell them your friend Daisy, a 50 + teacher and occasional DIYer says that she could have done better and knows to choose paint and tools carefully. You had expectations that, as professionals, they would have done, at minimal, the same. Tell them you realize that you will not get a factory finish by painting in house, but that what you have is unacceptable and was obviously done by a (very) nappy roller. I'm guessing they'll need to sand a bit and redo.

  • 7 years ago

    Lots of cabinet painters do not spray the boxes. The reasoning here is that the doors and drawer fronts are what you see. Once they are installed, the boxes are pretty much covered up. Personally, I am not a fan since you can still see the side panels. Also, this is not an issue of using a foam roller. I never use foam rollers and most professionals do not use them either. The problem with cabinet painters is that not all of them are actual painters. They might be cabinet makers who build cabinets and spray cabinets, but cabinets are easy to spray when you can lay all the pieces flat on sawhorses. Spraying the boxes inside a persons home requires more skill, which is why many will opt to roll them and have them come out looking like what you have here. Sadly, the fix is not as easy as people think. Sanding away heavy roller stipple will require some serious sanding.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    If you had a smooth finish before and all they had to do was spray over the old after prepping them, there's no reason that the new finish shouldn't be smooth. What you've posted is substandard as far as I'm concerned. I've refinished quite a number in my past when I had my business. I can't think of any professional who would consider that a quality finish.

  • PRO
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    IF your cabinets were smooth before

    That "orange peel effect" is unacceptable.

    It looks like rolled primer or wrong type of sprayer or pressure or mix

    which was not sanded to be smoothed

    Primer needs to take time to dry then sand then spray.

    Not an easy fix. Must be sanded back down to smooth primer then painted again.

    Even IF cabinets had "orange peel" previously, A PRO refinisher/ painter would of discussed this with you & advised to strip it down & redo correctly.

    The higher gloss shiny coat is not good on cabinets, either. Seeing a light glare or worse a reflection is not suggested for painted cabinets.


    Also, White cabinets with wrong seal can yellow over time. Make sure they're using a non-yellowing sealer especially made for this application,too.

  • 7 years ago
    Thanks so much everyone, and the context on spray vs foam roller vs brush all help. At close up, previous cabinets were brushed, but still had that nice smooth finish. Someone mentioned the high gloss is not recommended, what’s the best recommended paint finish here for a bright white kitchen cabinet? Thanks for the tip on the poly, too. Contractor is working with us on this, which is what I expected with these guys. They’ve been very good to work with. This appears to be a learning curve issue (tied with communication issue) for the painter they assigned, and they are taking ownership. This helped a lot, though, bc I wanted to be sure we had a fair conversation about expectations, esp after we have a contract in place. They will be sanding and using the appropriates tools/paint for the fix and I’ll be able to be specific on process now. Many thanks!
  • 7 years ago

    A satin finish is a more updated look.

  • 7 years ago

    Ask them if they are using a self leveling paint, that is actually meant for cabinets. If they are not using that, you might want to ask them to use that.

  • 7 years ago

    Here is how I would expect a Pro cabinet finisher to spray paint kitchen cabinets. A brush painted amateur job would differ slightly in that you wouldn't hang the doors to paint. You'd place them on a work table or easel instead. It's time intensive work, and should take 7-14 days to accomplish completely and cost between 5--9K depending on kitchen size and amount of detail in cabinets.

    Remove doors and drawer fronts. Number on an edge to locate their home easily.
    Remove hinges and hardware.
    Clean with TSP (tri-sodium phosphate)
    Rinse (required) and let dry.
    Scrape any loose finish.
    Fill any damaged spots or hardware holes that won't be reused.

    Fill oak grain with PorePac if you want a smooth finish then sand. Repeat. (Or just buy new cabinets. The labor to donthst is insane.)
    Sand fill smooth.
    Scuff sand the rest.
    Tack off dust.
    Hang in dust free paint booth with wires through hardware points.
    Tack off dust again.
    Spray with alkyd based primer like BIN.
    Scuff sand again.
    Tack off dust.
    Spray with second coat of primer.
    Spray with first finish coat of post catalyzed conversion varnish. Amateurs can use an oil modified waterborne enamel like Cabinet Coat.
    Spray with second coat.
    If glazing is to occur, that is next.

    Add more molding or decorative details to boxes, filling nail holes and sanding smooth.

    Repeat prep process with face frames and exposed cabinet sides using plastic to create a spray booth on site. If interiors are to be done, they are done before face frames and sides. Interiors are difficult, and add both time and expense to the job.

    Allow everything to fully cure.
    Clean hinges and hardware and clear coat if you're keeping the old hardware.
    Install new (or old) hinges and hardware.
    Re-install doors and drawers and adjust for proper clearances.

    If you are receiving a job without this amount of effort, or these professional products, then you are not receiving a quality professional job.