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Shade & slope gardening.

7 years ago

My gardens are all gone, my home is sold and now I will need to start over. While I am currently homeless we have chosen our next patch of earth and I can't wait to get in the dirt again.

The new place has a lot of issues. It was once a very loved little patch, but it's been left wild for a long time as the owners have aged and now widowed.

The back yard is rather steep, about an 8-9' drop along only 25-30 ft. Here in Florida we don't see much in the way of hillside gardening and i'm dreaming big. There is quite a bit of erosion so some form of terracing is in order. We will be putting up a fence and I have big dreams of aerial plants in the crooks of giant oaks so that the view over the fence is nice as well.

I've never gardened in so much shade though a lot will need cut back. There are a few invasive plants that will be taken out immediately (pepper trees, etc) and loads of plants that have grown much to large and are pushing into the frame of the pool cover, etc. I'll post more pictures as work begins and of course it will be ever evolving for a long while I think. He is what I was able to come up with so I can show you the general feel of the place...


Fence line is only on 1 side (neighbors) for now


The picture simply does that slope no justice.


I am open to a multitude of suggestions. Anyone who wants to visit and give ideas I'm good with that too. None of the large oaks can be taken down so I'll have to figure out how to live with them. Any Master Gardeners want to take on a good challenge? I really want as many edibles as I can with what limited light there is.


I'm so excited, and so nervous, too.


Barbie~

Comments (4)

  • 7 years ago

    Barbie, I'd wait awhile before terracing that back slope too much. It looks like it's intentional for drainage away from the house. If you do terrace it, french drains along the terrace would be in order, where the water would come out of the front. I'd get an engineer in to tell you how much slope you should have.


    Is that little mound in the back by the door a septic tank? I know some of the older houses had them way too close to the house, and they caused problems if they ever leaked. If that slope is a drain field, that makes it even more difficult to level it out, because you need it to drain as far away from the house as you can.


    Again, I'd find all this out and get an engineer in to see exactly what can be done.


    As for shade plants, there are TONS of them that will grow up here in N. Florida. Are you 8b or 9a? Cannas, gingers, elephant ears, bleeding heart clerodendrum, even some amaryllis do well in shade. The list goes on and on. I have mostly shade here in Gainesville, so I'd be happy to help you with some plants when the time comes.

  • 7 years ago

    Hi Barbie

    Congrats on the new place! It is nice to start new and fresh ideas for landscaping.

    I am not much of a landscape designer, but I have seen beautiful ornamental gardens in shade, one of them was Mark and Judy's garden.

    I am looking forward to see your new gardening adventures, the slope reminds me of a house that we had in Mass, it was difficult to mow....

  • PRO
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    If you want a cohesive, well landscaped yard, someone must create a landscape plan on paper. If you're not going to have a professional landscape designer do it, it would be up to you to create the plan. You can get suggestions here, but "throwing" a whole yard to the forum is overwhelming, and the discussion -- talking about any and all parts of the yard at the same time -- is hard to follow. It would be better to limit a thread to a discussion of of the front yard only (or other individual places) as a starting point, and then move on to another areas (probably each in a separate thread) once the discussion is complete.

    For each area under discussion you have to show the space, including surroundings, in a manner that it can be understood. For foundation plantings, you need to line the camera up with the center of the wall and square on to it, at about 30' away (this depends on the size of your house ... farther for larger and closer for smaller.) Then, you need to take a panning series of slightly overlapping shots from far left to far right so the entire wall can be shown in its surroundings. And you need to state your goals and objectives in order to get feedback that corresponds with them. If you're looking for help with perimeter plantings, you'd take a similar series of slightly overlapping pictures in the reverse direction, while standing with your back at the house.

  • 7 years ago

    I am sure that I will have plenty to share and individual projects to tackle as time goes on. Just hoping this doesn't fall through as the last house did.


    No septic, unless it is an old unit as the home is on city water/sewer. I know i will definitely have to incorporate some type of drainage to facilitate the runoff though.


    Wow, Yardvaark. You really laid it out there for me. Thanks! I would have never known that someone would need that many photos of a space, nor how to take them the best way. I'll try to remember to post in incremental sections when I do. I plan on putting the plot to paper, but for now, I'm only looking to share my excitement and for general comments from people that had similar situations with the slope and/or deep shade issues. I can't even begin to truly plan out the space yet, only to dream a little of the things I'd like to see accomplished. <3


    Barbie