we use minima jasmine.

So, I looked up the minima jasmine. Can you tell me what you look about it? Does it get woody over time, or will an annual mowing keep it green?

The Cynodon is just Bermuda grass. It will hold up well to dog traffic but can be a very aggressive spreader. The peanut will only tolerate light foot traffice so probably not a good choice. And no living plant will withstand the constant onslaught of dog pee without damage

They make an artificial turf specifically intended for dogs that will hold up to all kinds of activity - constant foot traffic, rambunctious play and pee and poop proof. Just needs hosing down periodically to clean.

Your thoughts on the following ideas or any other suggestions. I don't want artificial grass.

A landscaper suggested red fescue (red fescue mixed with blue grass?)

https://plants.usda.gov/plantguide/pdf/pg_feru2.pdf

I found a few posts and videos on the internet about kurapia

https://www.westcoastturf.com/Kurapia-Drought-Tolerant-Ground-Cover

Also clover and grass yard

Here's my destructive pups:

This California Meadow Sedge looks interesting, too:

https://www.anniesannuals.com/plants/view/?id=2918

we knock down the monima jasmine three or four times a year. we're in Florida, so more rain. we keep ours about 6 inches high. our little dog is very happy.
i don't know how it would work with 3 big dogs but it works for us.

we only have one small dog, and one visiting small dog, fwiw

1. The landscaper who recommended northern grasses is an idiot. Never speak to him again. He's dangerous.

2. Where do you live? This could affect my comment on 1 above. If you live in the morning fog zone that lasts until 11am every morning, then you can get away with fescue, BUT, the dogs will rip it out instantly. Bermuda and St Augustine are the only two grasses you should be considering. I like UC Verde buffalo grass for full sun in SoCal, but I'm not sure about dog traffic.

3. Where DO you live? Please be specific. SoCal has every soil type and microclimate there is. The zone number means nothing. If you actually live inside the LA city limits, please name the community, because that town sprawls everywhere.

4. Do you have shade to deal with?

For dog pee you can try this. Spot treat every yellowing spot with a heaping handful of table sugar. Moisten that and leave it alone. The grass should come back very dark green and growing fast in 3 weeks. Also I would try to use organic fertilizer as much as practical. Once I know where you live I can suggest places to find alternatives to commercially bagged organic fertilizer. But I don't want to send you to Orange county when you live in Ventura.

LOL! I read the comment about the red fescue and chuckled as well :-) Even if you did live in the fog zone, it will not hold up well with dogs. At all!! The kurapia is a possibility but it is only slightly more tolerant to foot traffic than a traditional lawn. 3 dogs running and playing would give it a serious work out.

And my first statement still stands. No living plant will stand up well to constant peeing.

We live near the beach in the South Bay. and our soil is sandy. It is often foggy here. Another landscaper came by. He suggested covering the hilI in kurapia and adding a few Pride of Madeira for height and intetest. He inspected our backyard and said with 3 dogs any groundcover will be ruined in a few months.

oh. I guess we have a little shade in the backyard. we have tall trees along one side of our fence. The hill has no shade.

We live near the beach in the South Bay

Playing it coy are we? I promise nobody is going to come over for Easter if you just say you live in Torrance.

I lived about 1,000 feet east of Aviation on 121st St in Hawthorne for 9 years, so I know your situation. As has been mentioned, you could grow fescue or rye grasses, but dogs will rip them right out. An alternative to a lawn would be a lot of mulch. If you could find a tree trimmer who has a chipper shredder, they might be inclined to dump their day's haul onto your property for you to schlep to the back. If you put down St Augustine, the dogs would wear a path around, but the grass will come back if they tear it out. Active dogs are very hard on a lawn.

You are welcome to my home for Passover AND Easter. We celebrate both. I didn't think anyone ever heard of Torrance... Here's a pic of 2 of our dogs and what's left of the St. Augustine grass. Maybe dg or pebbles? I didn't consider mulch. I'll look into it.

Hey we're sitting on the only patch of grass of left. Let's get to work!

I am going to try all your suggestions.

@Lisa Did you end up with Kurapia? I'm looking into it and want to know your experience.

We planted 1000 square feet of Kurapia sod on our hillside. It established quickly and looked gorgeous. Upkeep was easy, too. One caveat is that the carpet of flowers attracted bees. A new version is available with fewer flowers. We sold our home in March and believe the stunning hillside helped boost its curb appeal.

@Lisa How often did you have to mow Kurapia when you had it. What is the newer version called with fewer flowers. Do you happen to have any photo of your Kurapia to share?

We never mowed it. Only a few vendors sell Kurapia. Ask about the reduced flower version. Here's a pic after we planted. Later we added Pride of Medeira plants. And the combo looked great.

Lisa, thank you so much for the update. Glad the Kurapia worked out for you. Where did you end up buying it? Again, don't be afraid to be specific.

We went with this company:

Soils Solutions LLC

P.O. Box 1666

Camarillo, California 93011

805-236-9272

Lisa, does the Kurapia stain with dog feces and urine? We are thinking of putting it in.

Would love to know if kurapia worked