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Is this subfloor or regular? *Pics*

7 years ago

Hi there,


I peeled back some carpeting in a newly purchased home to find what I think might be wood flooring or subfloor. I don't know how to tell the difference. Parts of it seemed to have been stained/finished, where other parts seem to be more "raw". It looks to be all over the second floor. The first floor has a different kind of flooring, I think it's a thin pine plank (not sure). I'll post some pictures showing what I've found and a picture of the first floor flooring for comparison.


Also, the carpet covers the stairs. Assuming there is real wood floor under there, what should I expect for the staircase?



One thing to note is that this home was built in 1908, I am unsure if the flooring on either floor is original.


Part of the floor that seems to be untouched


This is the flooring on the first floor.







This is at the corner of the entrance of the bathroom which has been tiled.. hopefully the grout/concrete hasn't seeped onto the flooring.




Thank you in advance!!






Comments (22)

  • 7 years ago

    Thank you for your response! I'm not sure how to determine the amount of meat there is.. the home is heated with a boiler/radiators. Is there another way to find out?

  • 7 years ago

    Can you fit a measure in where the pipes for your rads come up through the floor?

  • 7 years ago

    There are often transition strips or t-moldings between different floor finishes...like where the wood meets tile, stone, lino, etc. Sometimes a door 'saddle' can be removed to view the cross section. If you can access the basement/crawlspace, you can look 'up' to see what type of subfloor you have...but that won't help you with the floor thickness.

  • 7 years ago
    First floor looks like maple. The other is fir. Maple or oak was used on 1st floors because it is harder and can take more wear. Upper floors, where bedrooms usually are, is fir, which is softer. When refinished, both are beautiful.
  • 7 years ago
    Oh, and you can expect fir on the stair steps.
  • PRO
    7 years ago

    If you have an inspection by a local floor contractor that will also be beneficial. Original Fir floors would be gorgeous if refinished.

  • 7 years ago
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    The first floor looks to be a strip floor, not tongue and groove. Very common at the time, and very thin--probably only 1/4". Looks really nice and appropriate to the period (but I bet it squeaks like the devil when you walk on it).

  • 7 years ago

    Never heard of a floor that old that’s only 1/4” thick

  • 7 years ago
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    km kane: That kind of flooring from turn-of-the-century was very common and it was thin and flexible and face nailed (generally 2 nails per board at every joist). I doubt there were many standards back then. The strips were usually 1 1/2" or 2" wide and 1/4" to 3/8" thick--5/16" seems to have been common too. More like lath than real boards.

    Do a search for oak strip flooring face-nailed. Lots of info. Unfortunately, just searching for strip flooring mostly return returns examples of how to strip floors.

  • 7 years ago
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    Tatts, very interesting. I‘ve lived in two areas of the country (old east and far north west) where wood floors were common, and never knew of any that were only 1/4” thick. They were, and had to be, at least 3/4“ thick, with a wood slat sub-floor, to support the weight. In these houses with just 1/4” thick boards, how did the joists work? What was the subfloor? I’d love to know where this was the norm! Thanks for the info :)

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    At the turn of the century, it was not uncommon to have a finished floor perimeter with the expectation that a rug would cover the raw floor in the center.

  • 7 years ago
    Many older homes in my area have 3/8 thick tongue and groove flooring in either maple or oak. It is only good for about one refinishing so most of those floors are ready for replacement now.

    There was also a product described as wood carpet which was thin strips of wood glued to a canvas backing
  • 7 years ago

    Quick update.. we removed the carpet in the upstairs. After much time prepping the wood and removing what felt like millions of staples, we sanded and refinished the floors. I know most would not recommend this as a DIY project but it was the most reasonable option we had. The floor is NOT perfect, weathered and worn over the 111 years it's been lived on. I am happy with the result.




  • 7 years ago

    Kudos to you, I think it's gorgeous!

  • 7 years ago

    Beautiful! I love floors with character, and these have that but are also very nice looking. Congrats on a good find!

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    You must be thrilled! Looks great.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Very nice! Back to your original question, your wood is most likely floor AND subfloor. It's probably flooring laid right on the joists. That's why you have end joints that line up across the floor at regular intervals (often multiples of 16" or 24"). The ends of the boards are laid on joists.

  • 7 years ago

    Gorgeous result!!!

  • 7 years ago

    thanks everyone! Now to plan my next project

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Looks Great! Great job on the sanding and finishing. Your floors can put a lot pros to shame.

  • 7 years ago

    Love it ...much nicer the new wood floors