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Spout vent open or closed

7 years ago

Sorry if this is a double post..thought I posted this earlier but cant find it. Anyway...I'm in my MIL's shed fighting her scepter non spill can from a few years back. Another mess. So I see a bunch of videos on defeating the mechanisms and such but came across a replacement Sceptre spout. See photos.


I just googled an I think this little sucker is self vented? Not sure why it comes with the big screw on vent cap but from pics I found, I think older cans had a vent perhaps this was to used on. See pics...it looks like it has a double tube...I am guessing somehow using this on my over engineered can with no vent...if it fits...will turn it into a vented can....albeit it would be like having the vent open at all times. Am I right?


If not, the only other downside to the spout is...I guess you have to store the internal seal thing somewhere so you can fully seal the can when going for gas...a PITA.l and sea foam) go bad?


If not, the only other downside to the spout is...I guess you have to store the internal seal thing somewhere nd not loose it since you need it to fully seal the can when going for gas...a PITA.


Thoughts? I am also tempted to try the EZ pour thing.




Comments (19)

  • 7 years ago

    We have 3 of those on our gas cans at the golf course I work at. They work great except the rubber seal likes to cone loose easy.

  • 7 years ago

    with you till the last sentence. My Scepter has no vent. The cap that came with the thing looks to be one that would screw onto a vent. This round cap is not going to fit over the large and small tube. If I can't cap it then I believe the thing is, in effect, always open vented...which I thought was bad for the gas....and if I loose the little sealer flat cap I have no way to fill at the station and seal the sucker till I get home.

  • 7 years ago

    ok, I opened the package after seeing a pic on the net. So I guess the stopper acts as a cap too... so to speak?


    If so..

    If this works the design is so simplistic...why do they have those over engineered things.


    Sadly the quality of the sucker seems poor. The plastic mold is very thing. Perhaps it will last not sure.


    I seriously question if that cap will stay on over time without warping....assuming I do not lose it!






  • 7 years ago

    Those little yellow vents can easily be added to your can along with a more traditional spout.

  • 7 years ago

    EZ pour is the only other spout and it has mixed reviews including the rubber gasket being dissolved into he gas over time. Ottherwise, yes, I can add a vent and make some sort of custom spout. I am hoping this works.

    So...over the summer, in the shed...do you leave the vent opened or closed?

  • 7 years ago
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    Yeah the cap pushed into the spout is iffy at best . Just reverse the spout into the gas can and use the yellow sealer disc inserted into the black cap to seal your fuel can in storage . Fugitive Benzene fumes and vapour regulations have developed these bandaid devices . Nothing wrong with the old vented fuel cans when used properly . If you prefer leave the spout on the can , but be sure to insert the disc to seal black cap while in storage . P.S. The small cap with the loop is intended for vented cans , since these new style spouts can be used on them also . Remember keep the smaller vent above the larger spout while pouring !

  • 7 years ago

    " Fugitive Benzene fumes" Great. Something else to watch around every corner for :) Yep, close the caps and vents.

  • 7 years ago

    thanks. I agree for travel to the gas station I would definitely reverse the spout and insert the stopper. I would hope the crappy 'cap' (invetered stopper) would suffice while in shed over the summer though. In the winter, the can will be empty so there is no issue there.

    Again though...should the can be sealed, ie have the vent closed, in the shed over the summer? is it ok to leave the vent open between monthly fills over the summer?

    I personally always keep the flip vent on my personal can can but may times the can swells and you get a big SWOOOOSH when you flip open the vent. These new cans are flimsy by comparision and I wonder if keep it sealed wont lead to the can splitting or shooting the little cap off!

    So, can you keep the vent open for the summer..or should it be closed. Again, no gad over the winter...not an issue there.

  • 7 years ago

    If you are using efuel Andre , keep it sealed and 7/8 full (air space) for thermal cycle expansion . Otherwise use Startron or equivalent during storage to prevent phase separation and moisture entrainment .

  • 7 years ago

    efuel? Is that some sort of internet fuel? LOL I use gas from the gas station! I add stabil with Ethanol stabilizer and sea foam. So I think I'll fill the gallon container with 4 gallons and keep the cheapie cap on. If it gets lost or the sucker falls apart I'll make something.

  • 7 years ago

    The thing that gets me though is that if that can make this or the EZ pour thing, why not make them of better quality. My snap on/off cap on my 20 year old can works good as new. Hell I'd pay more for something made that well.

  • 7 years ago
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    Andre , you have been on this site long enough to know what ethanol fuel (efuel) is Bud ! Leave it open to atmosphere for more than 30 days and you have sludge and moonshine ! lol. Talk to your local Epa agent about the new pour spouts , yes they are absolutely absurd !

  • 7 years ago

    Yea..I was kidding.


    So, the Scepter thing fit my can no leaks. I am getting another for my MIL's smaller 1 gallon can. Its a shame they are not made a bit heftier. I'll see how it goes and if they don't last try an EZ pour. Oh yea...I found this ole guy in her shed...was missing the snap on cap. It was to valuable to toss so I took it to Lowes and it turns out a threaded 1/2" pipe cap screwed right on and even tightens...I guess the little lip on the nozzle was enough to grab the threads.




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  • 7 years ago
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    Andre , yeah I know your a kidder ! Just a point of further info per your larger straight gas can and your statement of no vent . The new spout has the smaller tube designed as a vent when pouring as you have the spout oriented . Also there are old style spouts and push in handle vents as on your smaller can , manufactured for our old vented plastic cans . I purchased 3 set last yr . (Gas spouts.com) $10.75 ea.

  • 7 years ago

    Yes, I may get one (pop Vent) for my little 1 gallon can. It
    says you need a 31/64 bit though...who has that! It costs more than the spout! Anyway,
    my can has the safety thing on it but it
    actually has worked well for years..other than the glug glug glug. You just
    press the spout against the tank you are filling and the gas comes out. It seems once they started incorporating switches
    and knobs and levers and thumb scans and passwords....thats when things got
    real bad...LOL.

    I am also going to look to see if I can find something at Lowes
    that better fits the two hole spout on the big can.

    Anyway, my daughter does the grass up at my MILs and brought
    to my attention the leaking BIG can. I asked how the little one was
    doing....she said ‘better this year’...odd I thought....well its better because
    the darn spout is stuck in the open position!
    That won’t do. Fortunately it’s a Sceptre too so I ordered another
    spout.

  • 7 years ago

    Hell with the Engineers Andre go with a step drill lol.

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    I swear half the time my posts do not go thru!

    Anyway, rainy day so I replaced the cheapie spout cap I was worried about. I'll keep it as a stopper for gas runs...but now I have this baby. Technically the white cap would have worked but this is more secure. Maybe I'll cut it down a little....then again I'd have to dig out the saw...hell less likely to get lost like this!

    BTW, does any have an android and able to post from it?