Hyed would probably know.

There's a retail grower by me that has Fire Light listed in their catalog in a #10 pot, single stem. They are out there.

Gardening has taught me alot of patience....and buying a tree for the immediate gratification ;-)

So whaddya say Hyed. How long on average would you say it takes to even get it into tree form ? 6-8 years. Unless you got a magic wand I can borrow

While I do see the benefits on the multi stem - can afford some loss leaders.....the whole standard tree form thing for me is the visual look of a single stem lollipop - albit I think I may to try 2 stems going up fairly close together

a1an go for it, I love taking a older Hys and pruning to tree form...buying 5’ trees is out of my budget...at age 79 i’ll Keep digging...LOL

If I were to try this on my own I’d buy something like a 2 gallon plant now and let it establish. Cut it back really short next spring and select the desired number of stems to grow all season. Then work from there building the framework.

Ah. I get it now Hyed. You don't plant them as shrubs with the intent to grow them into standards. It's just the journey of the pruners that has led you there.

I dunno PL. If it's going to take 6+ years, surely by then, a FL standard will come to market.

I just looked more closey at the ~muti stem~ standard. What's great is that you have more control of the framework as you have that many more stems to decide the fate of the shape of it. + points right there !

Fire Light standards are in the market already but maybe not in large Quantities.

I’m not sure how much Fire Light differs from Vanilla Strawberry...but I have one that I purchased as a small tree last year. Came barefoot with no leaves and I was so disappointed. This year it looks amazing is I’m positive it will be covered in blooms. It’s about 5-6 feet right now

Pickup a nice Limelight tree for 90$

Congrats Hyed. They are 2X that out here, and for B&B, about 4X that...

The established framework on it also looks GREAT !

Did you have to cherry pick the lot in the yard or did all of them have the perfect cupped framework.

I have no idea why....but all the local nurseries this year all seem to have them with grafted

a1an, just what need another Hy...but I couldn’t pass on this

LOL. Same with me....

I started out wanting to add 2 rose trees -lollipops of color-. Then after much hemming and hawing, and hardiness questionability, I decided to do the colored lollipop with a FireLight. And after my pre-order of FL got cancelled, and searching nurseries with no avail, I did not want to come back empty handed so another LL tree for me.

Ha. We've gone full circle