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Need new focal plant

7 years ago

Hi all,

So I am slowly but surely filling out my gardens (moved in 3 years ago, ripped out all the gross and half dead junk from the previous owner) and I am looking for a new large shrub to put in my 2 front gardens that flank either side of our front door. Currently I have scotch broom planted in the area I'm thinking about, however the plants are doing so poorly they didn't even flower this year, my thought is that they simply don't get nearly enough sun here (bone head move on my part). So I'm going to dig them out and put them somewhere sunnier.


But I'd like a large plant to put in their places. Unfortunately I have an obnoxious set of criteria, what are your suggestions for a plant that:

1. Is medium/large, around 4-6 feet tall and 4-6 feet wide.

2. Prefers partial shade (about 4 hours tops)

3. Tolerates HEAT because unfortunately the 4 hours of sun is afternoon sun

4. Not required but bonus points for fall/winter interest


What are your favorite plants like that?


I can upload some photos of the areas in question later. I have a few older photos but for whatever reason this area photographs horribly and looks SO much better in person.


Comments (33)

  • 7 years ago

    Please add the photos.

    One of the smaller cultivars of panicled hydrangeas might work well here. Check out Bobo, Little Quickfire, Little Lime and Little Lamb. Long blooming (3-4 months for me), and some have a bit of fall color. I leave the dried blossoms for winter interest.

    Consider Fothergilla. My Mount Airy are about 4’ tall and wide, and have scented bottlebrush spring flowers and stunning fall color. Kind of boring in summer and winter, but I grow clematis into them for interest now, and you could add white lights for winter interest or surround them with an evergreen ground cover like perennial candytuft, Iberia sempervirens or one of the evergreen Geraniums like Biokovo.

    Look at Itea virginica which has summer flowers and great fall color. No spring or winter interest.

  • 7 years ago

    Oakleaf hydrangea

  • PRO
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    You did not list your grow zone. If you live in zone 6b or warmer, consider nandina (many cultivars to choose from). Dwarf Mahonia beali, Dwarf Pieris, Dwarf Hinoki Cypress, Chuck Hayes Gardenia, Dwarf Poncirus, Ruby Slippers Oakleaf Hydrangea, Variegated Boxwood, Goshiki Osmanthus are also worth considering.

  • 7 years ago

    Another to consider is various types of Abelias. They‘re such easy keepers in all kinds of conditions, have pretty little flowers, and some have vivid leaf colors. Several types would fit all of your criteria.

  • 7 years ago

    I would second abelia - a very underplanted genus to my mind. One thing though - they are not keen on windy conditions.

  • 7 years ago
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    wow thanks for so many responses so quickly. I can't wait to investigate each one of these more once I get out of work today haha.

    Dig Doug Designs - my apologies, Houzz used to show the grow zone next to our user name but I guess that doesn't happen anymore. I am in 6a, Central Massachusetts

    Here are some photos (I am always a tiny bit embarrassed by how these particular beds look on camera).

    Garden on left of door (pic taken last week - I have to re-mulch because we had work done on a crack in our foundation):





  • 7 years ago

    Right side (apparently I haven't taken a photo since May):



    above view


    front of house also from may


  • PRO
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    some ideas using Dwarf Pieris, Baby Blue chamaecyparis, purple smoke bush. Midnight Rose heuchera, Soft touch holly & Little Lamb hydrangea:



  • 7 years ago

    wow that looks amazing! I like that you also included those rocks to level out that area of the garden, I have actually been planning on doing that this summer lol. Let me ask you, do you think it's worth it to spend the extra $ on mature plants or on younger plants and wait for them to grow in?

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    I guess the size of the plants depends on your patience & budget. Most people I have designed for prefer larger plants because of their age & larger budgets. Of what I show, probably a larger Baby Blue False Cypress would be best due to its growth rate.

  • 7 years ago

    I know you were probably asking Doug, but I planted these $8 incrediball hydrangea from Bluestone Perennials (I did get them on sale) in April 2017. The top left picture is how they looked on arrival. The lower left picture is how they looked this May, and the right hand picture was earlier this month. Some shrubs grow fast!

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    IMO, a focal point plant is a single, significant specimen rather than an entire bed of similarly sized plants all vying for attention. The smokebush could work, as could the oakleaf hydrangea. Another option is a contorted filbert (Harry Lauder's walking stick) and one with colored foliage like 'Red Dragon'. It has strong winter interest with its very twisted branching and long, burgundy colored catkins. The smokebush has good fall color but no winter interest; the hydrangea has both.

    I would keep other plantings pretty simple.....'Blue Star' junipers (great contrast with the burgundy foliage of the filbert) or the holly or spreading yews.

    And for the specimen shrub, I'd go with as large as I could find and afford :-)

  • 7 years ago

    Jenn that's beautiful plant! I bought a super cheap hydrangea from Tractor supply and didn't expect much. It was the same size as yours, it came back this year about two feet high and two feet wide. unfortunately it was severely damaged (by accident) when we repaired the crack in the wall behind it. Don't think it's going to survive. I think I certainly need to add a hydrangea or two.


    I also like the layering look that you provided Doug. I need to get better about learning how to do that kind of stuff since I'm still so new to gardening.


    I like the idea of a big shrub or two with some smaller plants around, and then the evergreens in front. I would also leave some room at the front of the bed for spring tulips, my husband's favorite flower. Luckily I have a couple Blue Star Junipers (hard to see in the pic) that I can pull forward to do this!

  • 7 years ago

    Maybe clethra alnifolia? Do you have enough room in that bed for a 6'x6' shrub and to still have 1-2' of space from the siding?

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    The first thing I thought of was oakleaf hydrangea -- the deep red fall coloring is spectacular, and the leaves are bold and interesting. "Alice" is a taller cultivar. "Annabelle" hydrangea would also work well. (totally different look, though).


    I do love fothergilla, as someone suggested above, but I don't consider them focal point shrubs on their own -- I think they look best in a grouping. They just don't have that "oomph" to my eye to stand alone.


    Frankly, most shrubs do look best in groupings anyway -- have you considered re-designing the bed to allow for the incorporation of more than just singular dots of shrubs?

  • 7 years ago

    Anna - yes the bed itself is about 8.5 feet wide, it's much larger in person than the photo shows haha

    mx - thank you! love having specific varieties to look up!

  • 7 years ago

    also anyone know what these giant beauties are? I took a walk at work to get some air and saw these!

  • 7 years ago

    Kousa dogwood.

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    If you can find it, you could plant a Cornus kousa (or Kousa dogwood) 'Little Poncho' to the left of the steps. It has those same cream-white flowers as the tree in your picture and stays more compact than other varieties at 8 to 10 feet tall by 5 to 6 feet wide after 10 years. It has 3 season interest with the spring blooms, summer/fall berries, and fall color--4 season if you count the bare bark and form of the tree in winter. I've always wanted one but we have 2 kousas already and no room for a third :-(

  • 7 years ago

    Tree-form panicle hydrangea would be another idea - if you want to go the small tree route.

  • 7 years ago

    oo anyone ever tree growing Calycanthus?? I did a tiny bit of research and it seems pretty cool (it apparently prefers loam and I have clay but I can always amend more)

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    Yes, easy to grow (Friend has it). Very striking, always makes people do a double take. I bought it for my brother and SIL and they love it as well.

  • 7 years ago

    Perhaps dappled willow tree? I found one today and have to say they are a great focal point!

    Stock photo

  • 7 years ago

    I do not have any specific suggestions you have gotten a lot of those. The only thing I could see that should happen is the bush you choose to flank either side of your steps I would make sure it is evergreen. If it is not evergreen your house will look like the front pic you posted from Nov - April.

    We get so caught up with beautiful summer flowers and leaves and not good bones and beauty for the winter months. It is nice to have a beautiful front through the holidays to greet your guest. My favorite is

    Variegated English Holly

    Ilex aquifolium 'Argentea Marginata'

    https://www.monrovia.com/plant-catalog/plants/1490/variegated-english-holly/

  • 7 years ago

    Doug, you are incredibly talented and so helpful with your mockups!! Thank you for being so generous with your gift!

  • 7 years ago

    mxk3 - Sorry just saw the part of your post asking about the groupings. Yes I definitely need to rearrange and would like to do groupings of shrubs, now that I am seeing how great it can look thanks to Doug and everyone. I'm still trying to learn this stuff and how to arrange the plants to get the look I want in my head haha. Part of it is that we are slowly buying plants for the gardens, it's so easy to go crazy with $ on gardening, so we just take it slow and try to enjoy doing a few new things each season. :) I'll be much happier when things are far fuller though

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    Ok I think I have decided what to add for the time being :)

    On the left side of the door I am going to add:

    * Pee Gee Hydrangea (perhaps incrediball too if it'll fit) in the center between the windows

    * Sweet Shrub in front of Pee Gee

    * Castle Spire Holly right next to the stairs (couldn't find english holly ANYWHERE)

    * adjusting the heather and blue star juniper I already have to be in front of the Holly

    * Forsythia all the way to the left of the arborvitae

    * Mockorange in front(ish) of the forsythia

    On the right side I'll add:

    * Castle Wall Holly (male pollinator) right next to stairs

    * Just added Cat Mint in front of where they holly will go

    * Old Fashioned Weigelia beneath the left window

    * Beauty Berry in front of Weigelia

    * North privet between the blank space between the windows

    * Another Hydrangea underneath the right window

    * Maybe a pieris towards the right

    Making sure to leave at about 1 foot of room in front of each garden for the tulips to come up (we've planned to order between 500-1000) Also ordering some more evergreens shrubs and ground covers, and a pussy willow for my other gardens :)

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    I wouldn’t use Calycanthus as a plant near the steps. It has gorgeous flowers, but the growth pattern of every one I have seen a somewhat rangy and unstructured. I have Aphrodite, planted perhaps 5 years ago, and have seen Hartlege Wine over a number of years in a friend’s garden. Plant Calycanthus where you can enjoy the flowers, but where when it isn’t in bloom it is not front and center and where random branching won’t reach out to grab visitors on the steps.

    I can’t really see what is in the garden, but I would add a taller plant over to the left, and if it is a small tree form, be sure to swing the bed out to give it enough room. I would have the majority of plants along the back be evergreens that will provide winter interest and are closer to the height of the windowsill than groundcovers, and I would concentrate the flowering plants in front of the evergreens

  • 7 years ago

    NH Babs - I always look forward to reading your comments on my, and others', posts. You bring up a good point. My challenge is that I have been trying to find evergreens for part sun, that also grow quickly haha. I've found a good handful like the hollies and some suggestions made here. I have a dwarf alberta spruce hiding in the back left (small, about 18 inches currently). It has been taking its sweet time growing lol. I might just shove something faster growing near it and figure out what to do with it later. I also realize I have a decent sized, 7' tall, 4' wide Purple Sand Cherry Tree in a pot with no where to call home. I think these trees do decently in part shade so I might throw that in there ( I think Doug also suggested this tree).


    Ah the planning never ends!

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    In New England you can count on PSC being short lived due to the multitude of diseases and insect that infest them. So plant where it can be replaced in 10 years.

    Look at Pieris and Kalmia/mountain laurel for part sun evergreens. Many rhodies will work well in part sun as well. Consider also that there are many evergreen groundcovers that work in part shade.

    Choose which plants to buy small vs. large. For instance, the Kalmia may be slower growing, so don’t buy as a tiny plant. The panicled hydrangeas will get to 2/3 of their mature size in 4 years from tiny twigs if given good drainage and a fair amount of sun, so you can get them smaller initially.

    Be sure you have some type of plant, preferably evergreen, that repeats down the bed for continuity. Otherwise you get a random look of one of this and one of that and there is no cohesion. So look at which plant or two you will have repeats of and which will be single features. For instance, most forsythia is a one shot wonder. I love its bright yellow in spring, and one I have has nice autumn color, but it has a tendency to not share space well and look like a bad hair day much of the summer. So put it out on the edge of the lawn where you can enjoy it from inside during black fly season or spring rain, but where it will be part of the background during the rest of the year. Mock orange is similar, but often has a lovely scent, so put it near a door you use or under a window you sit near when It is open. Both forsythia and mock orange come in a range of sizes, so choose carefully for what you want as far as size and growth pattern of the cultivar.


    edited to add: Skip the privet. Seeds invasively, smells rank when in bloom.

  • 7 years ago

    NH Babs - thanks so much for the advice! Had no idea about the privet, I'll be sure to skip it. For some reason I thought pieris was deciduous, I'm happy it's not! It had been suggested earlier in the thread but my brain I guess just discounted it for what it was haha. They're so graceful and pretty! With your advice in mind I think I'll have the hollies where I mentioned, pull those deciduous shrubs forward, and shove a couple laurels and a pieris in the back for the left, and since the right is smaller just a couple pieris. Silly question but considering PSC's vulnerabilities will it attract bugs that will hurt the house, like termites?
    I did find out luckily one of the azaleas I recently bough from Walmart ($2.84 woo hoo) is evergreen, and doing super well.
    I'm so excited for all of this, I'll have to wait until the heat of July and August is finished but I'm so excited to start this new project, thank you everyone!!

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    To my knowledge, the diseases and bugs that infest PSC are limited to Prunus species.