Minutemen and S&S

Paul's Glory

Kimodo Dragon

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Smaller Great Expectation

Sagae

Larger GE

Another S&S

Yet another

Well I thought the hawks moved. Evidently this might be from chicks? Desecrated Dream Queen.

Ending up with Kimodo Dragon. Turn your head back slowly to avoid injury.

- Jon

I turned my phone horizontally for right side up viewing without neck strain Lol..my Sum and Substance is so much smaller..be careful going near Dream Queen..once sitting on my garden seat a hawk dropped a load right on the top of my head..it was disgusting to say the least..just mentioning it makes me cringe..Lol

Nicholsworth, lol, I think I'm out of range when I walk by. Sightings are rare, but they are gorgeous animals. Early in Spring DQ is clean and if it rains all day. Hosing it off doesn't work. I have 10 SSs (If it works, overdo it!) and they all are big. I'll do a walk around and take some pics later.

- Jon

zcathy, I have some (other?) Frosted Jade. I'm thinking it isn't, but I will check and get back.

- Jon

zcathy, here is one (the best) of my 3 Frosted Jade

Here are 3 that I bought labeled as Frosted Jade planted at the Ravine. The 2 other Frosted Jade will be moved in the Fall. They will never do well where they are.

OK, I only have 9 S&S

This is on Hosta la Vista

Also on Hosta la Vista. 7 feet wide. Walnut (Pig Nut) trees which are said to be good for Hosta. I guess, but I have good luck all over.

2 flanking this rapidly growing conifer. These need to find a new home as well. Have to think about it.

Jon..you could use a Sum and Substance leaf as an umbrella when the hawks visit!..haha..looks like the part sun(?) that you have suits the hostas..

Now we're talking. 5 S&S. The largest is 5 feet across, the others aren't far behind. Only a couple of years old. I found a 'rotate right' selection on the phone so I rotated this photo to the right and then downloaded it. It still shows up rotated to the left. Beats me! Maybe if I set the rotate left before I take the picture. Photos show upright in the phone, on the computer, on Facebook so zi think the glitch is here. That's my story and I am sticking to it!

- Jon

I like hosta planted in multiples..not sure this would help but I crop a little off my original shot..sometimes my originals loaded sideways like yours and other times they looked "stretched" and distorted..cropping seemed to help..

nicholsworth, they have varying exposures so I would have to attribute their growth to expert gardening.....OK, probably a soil they like. I'll try the cropping. Thanks.

Jon..so when we have a dud..it's the light, soil, moisture etc..it couldn't be our "expert gardening" Lol..I'm guilty..I'm always saying "I don't have enough sun" haha..I hope cropping helps..

Jon, if you have a PC or Mac, try re-orienting your pictures before posting. It makes life easier on all the viewers and yourself. I do that with all my photos from cameras and phones.

My S&S has diminished in recent years. Fertilizer? Droughts?

in 2015 it looked like this. The pot behind it is 18" diameter.

This year it looks like this. It just looks like it has gone down in size.

My other S&S has gone downhill too with 3 Sleeping Beauty plants around it. Maybe the chipmunks are destroying its roots. The Sleeping Beauties have really lost size over the last five years.

Empress Wu is another story. She is a giant.

Her offspring are bigger than the three tiny Fire & Ice hostas hidden below her massive leaves. I really need to save them if they are still there one day.

My other Empress Wu which is a year older but probably smaller than the one above has two of three Earth Angels around her.

hc..love your Empress Wu..how much sun?..just morning light?..doesn't looked scorched at all..

hc, they are oriented on my pc, on the phone I use for pictures here and when I turn them to try and compensate for the twisting they do when they appear here they still end up twisted the same way. I can't figure it out.

This is in it's second year. I hope it gets as big as yours. I have another older Wu that I babied that isn't close to this. It does produce a lot of offspring. This one is next to a very big pine with very little care.

I reset the settings to original. A short time ago I didn't have this problem.

Using nicholsworth's suggestion of cropping the photo a little it straightened up. Thanks Nichol!

Testing . . . I think my picture are @ 90 degrees when I retrieve them from the file on my computer and then post correctly. ummm didn't even post the picture tried 3 times!

Jon..yay!..this is much better for my neck Lol..

A boost to my ego and sanity as well!!!

Jon,

The phone and even newer cameras have gyroscopes/accelerometers inside that know the orientation the pictures were taken in (usually, not always). A flag is set for each photo to note the orientation when the picture is taken - that is why it always (seems to) appears right when you view it on the phone and some web sites that detect the same flag. The one thing I cannot do is orient a RAW photo from my cameras but then I can't post RAW photos either and orient them after they are processed and saved as JPG. Not a huge deal other than looking weird for most viewers when they are upside down or sideways.

https://gizmodo.com/all-the-sensors-in-your-smartphone-and-how-they-work-1797121002

Nichols,

I bought the first Empress Wu from WFF when they were the only place I could find it. I think it was $35 and maybe quart sized? I must've gotten it I the spring of 2013 or fall 2012. In 2013 I found it at our local nursery chain for $17 in a gallon sized container. The one from WFF gets filtered light under a spreading beech tree. The younger one gets a lot of sun as the backside is the only side that gets some benefit of shade (not much at that either).

The one from WFF in 2013 (April)

July 1, 2013

The one I got locally - same date as the picture above.

Sometimes it pays to be patient?

Check this one I got from my daughter for Father's Day - Golden Goddess which is supposedly a seedling of Empress Wu. Maybe put this in the ground next year.

Jon and hc you’re yards are soooo large....... I envy the space you have so you don’t have to Crowd your hostas like I do here in the city. It’s a dream! phenomenal sizes! Jon is that your car in the one picture? Don’t tell me you have to drive to your yard? Hahaha!

hc, it's an old camera and it never did this before and it doesn't do it on any other platform. I only use it to take pictures for here. I have a new camera and the photos from it evidently had too many pixels. The old phone camera worked fine when I used it here, then all of a sudden all the photos would be rotated. I'm sure I will never figure it out. I'm just glad I have a way to post right side up now thanks to Nichol.

djacobz, no, that is my neighbors care. See how cramped I am.

Yeah, right! You have a tiny yard like me! Lol!

There, that's better.

hc..Golden Goddess is gorgeous!..what a mouthful lol..the terra cotta pieces are to weigh the pot down?..even in the little bit of surrounding area that I see in your pics I can tell that you get more light for your Wu than I do (no surprise)..I'm hopeful for my Wu..it's young compared to yours..I'll move it someday..raining again..the hardy begonia looked great yesterday..the compost is sinking and as I'm writing this the rain is sinking it even more..I'm curious as to why you're waiting to plant Golden Goddess..if you don't plan to keep it in a pot I would plant it now..but I don't live in Georgia and have a different climate..

A lot of times I wait on planting in the ground - maybe move to a larger pot for a year or two. That is the way I did Japanese maples for a few years - buy 3 or 4 different types in one gallon size (very inexpensive this way), move them to a 3 gallon pot, then plant them to their final home the next year and repeat the process. Sometimes the plants are just too young to go right in the ground and need a little more babying.

I had to dig up some hostas this year because they were in the wrong place - too hot, too dry, too far away from watering hose, Sometimes the hostas are so small they need a year or more in a pot. Lessons learned from previous failures. Also dug up some hydrangeas that were pouting too often and put them in large pots.

Here is Humpback Whale that looked like SS Minnow back in 2015 after I got it from a mail order nursery. The fern was from a friend who collected it in China but it didn't make it.

Humpback Whale this April shows a lot of promise this year so it will go in the ground this fall or next spring when I find the right spot.

The clay shards are to prevent squirrels digging in the freshly potted plant. I do this for a lot of plants but eventually you tire of trying to defeat the squirrels/chipmunks. I also use stones/gravel as well. I dug up some baby Japanese painted ferns in my mother's yard back in May. Planted those in a big 18 inch pot. Squirrels dug around and dispersed some of the small plants. I put a broken pine limb and a four way watering manifold in there to keep them from digging in the bare spots they created.

Here is one of the mother plants.

some babies in the yard among the weedy Indian strawberries and wood violets.

The 18 inch pot was full of babies until the animals scattered the soil and plants about.

So I stuck the limb and broken water manifold (and electric valve) in the pot. The remaining plants are growing around the objects.

This was the last photo I took of them about 3 weeks ago. They will be ready for the ground next spring.

I even use whole clay pots to discourage digging for this Walmart Hydrangea.

your reasoning makes sense..I like potted hosta (actually all potted plants!)..in my colder climate I put my potted hosta in my shed..they could(?) survive outside but winter's hard on the pots too..Humpback Whale looks great in a pot..I would have more potted hosta if I lived in Georgia..your pots stay out right?..squirrels are so annoying..I do the same thing and have used bricks, rocks, logs, limbs etc to keep them out..I have a violet (think it bloomed a creamy white) that's taller than the million others that are short with purple blooms..it kind of(?) reminds me of my new hardy begonia..upright with heart shaped leaves..I didn't pull it out..could be what you have..raining so no pic for now..my Japanese painted ferns aren't great..a few are pretty but I have some ratty ones..my Autumn and Ostrich ferns are better..pic#1 has what I think is a sensitive fern on the right (no label when I bought it at the greenhouse at the Indianapolis Museum of Art) and an Autumn on the left..#2 Autumn..#3 Japanese Painted ferns and "hardy" ferns from Kmart years ago..#4 Ostrich coming up in the spring..funny that the bad pic has "more info"..don't know why..

just mentioned this on another post..it's raining so I'm on my phone..I found the old Gardenweb "home feed"..I have edit and delete buttons on my comments but I can't take pics off as I used to..it's a lot of work to use Gardenweb now..sigh..

I usually have to get below the photo and hit backspace but I don't know how it works (if at all) if you posted and then edit after the fact.

Is that a royal fern in your first photo? We see them on one section of the trails we hike. The one I want now is the cinnamon fern - it is huge! It is like an ostrich fern that is on steroids. The other fern I have that is huge is the bracken fern - I have a feeling it may become weedy.

Bracken fern seems to pop up several feet away from where I planted it.

At the Atlanta Botanical Gardens, it has spread pretty good around this tall tree.

I understand what you mean..go to the lower left corner..then backspace and the pic would delete while creating or even after posting..didn't work today..in pic 1 Autumn's on the left and sensitive (I think) on the right..I wonder if my "hardy" ferns from Kmart could be Royals?..cinnamon ferns are tall..my neighbor has some..that stand of ferns at the Atlanta Botanical Gardens is huge..I'm writing this from Houzz grrr..got on the old format several times today but the pics are fuzzy..so chaotic dealing with Houzz..

I found this pic which I think is similar to mine..when I saw mine I thought "leave it..it's different than the purple"..can you see why the leaves remind me of the hardy begonia?
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I decided to start a new "paragraph" with the pic but I had typed "I found" before I hit the arrow..thought I deleted it..but no there it is looking stupid and I can't edit my comment..

pic 3 has a mixed clump of Japanese Painted and Autumn..then on the bottom left you can see a little of the "hardy" fern clump..does it look like a Royal to you?..

I thought of bunchberry when I saw the picture above. But I do see it is a violet when I clicked on it.

As for the sensitive fern, doesn't look right to me. At our last house we moved some sensitive fern (volunteer) on the end of the house (that was somewhat aggressive to the front yard in full sun. I also put 3 small pots of English ivy in the same island. IN about four years we were out there ripping out both the ivy and the ferns as they were taking over the yard. So much for sensitivity?

Here it was on the end of the house where it only got late afternoon sun.

this pic was the closest match I could find..most of them had finely cut leaves and mine doesn't..I'm not sure what it is..

I don't know what else to go by for sensitive fern other than when you get a frost it will quickly turn brown (hence the name sensitive). It can be a thug though so plant it where you want it to not invade its neighbors.

Looks great, Jon. Nice to see your gardens developing season after season, now that we've been on the forum for several years.

hc..I never paid attention to how quickly it turns brown..if you see a fern other than sensitive that you think is like mine let me know..