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Transom above a casement window, do sight lines matter?

7 years ago

We are building a home and have decided on Marvin Integrity (now called Essentials) black all Ultrex windows. In a couple of rooms we have a combination of fixed windows, operable windows and a door. The inoperable windows are usually installed as Direct Set and have narrower frames. The Operable windows have a thinker frame to house the crank. We've been reading that we shouldn't mix frame widths on the same wall due to "sight line variations". Our transoms are only 12" high so if we elect to have them installed as fixed casement (thick frame) windows to match the thick frame of the operable window below, it'll make the 12" glass in the transoms even narrower than they already are. We'd hate to end up with a transom that has just a sliver of glass making it look like a slit for a gun turret or worse. Do you think we can mix frames? Meaning have all of the transoms and the one fixed window Direct Set (Narrow) while having the operable window a casement (thicker) since the door throws out any hope of matching sight lines anyway? It's like a giant Sudoku puzzle...are we over thinking it?


Comments (21)

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Those transoms are pretty short to be a separate window.


    Think about how this appears from the inside when you go to install window treatments. Use a larger window and 86 the transoms.






  • PRO
    7 years ago

    I like that idea.

  • 7 years ago

    I'm waiting for a response from the Marvin Rep regarding the glass height if we go with a fixed casement. Maybe we'll have to 86 the transoms altogether. Appreciate both of your insights.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Bev, do they keep the transom above the door to match window height?

    Ann On Tellico thanked toddinmn
  • 7 years ago

    Here's a photo of the entire back of the house


  • PRO
    7 years ago

    How about the front where the door and wind are?

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    The transomes in the back look like slivers IMO.”

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    We were in a similar situation, and as suggested above went with a larger window and added cottage grills to give the same “look” as having a transom







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    Ann On Tellico thanked lkbum_gw
  • 7 years ago

    Grills are a great idea, we'll look at that. Thanks

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    These are Integrity SDL, they really look good. Forgot to mention, this saved a ton of money also. With transoms, you have two windows to pay for. With grills, you have one window with an upcharge for the grill.


    Ann On Tellico thanked lkbum_gw
  • PRO
    7 years ago

    ikbum-gw's windows look great and give a transom look without the transom. Keeping all the frames and casings (trim) consistent would be there better option imo. Good luck!

    Ann On Tellico thanked Norwood Architects
  • PRO
    7 years ago

    IMO those transoms are too small and the idea of the grids is a good one

    Ann On Tellico thanked Patricia Colwell Consulting
  • 7 years ago

    What would we do above the door...instead of a 8' make it a 9' with a transom? Not sure they come that tall....ugh.

  • 7 years ago

    I'd probably keep the transom on the door.


  • 7 years ago

    Or...toss the whole mess and just put a three glassed slider in both of the rooms. It would match the one in the kitchen which is 8' X 12" wide.

  • last year

    @Ann On Tellico what did you end up deciding here? we are in the same boat as you were!

  • last year
    last modified: last year

    We ended up forgoing the transoms over the windows in the rooms with only 10' ceilings and leaving them in the taller rooms. I still am not crazy about how narrow the transoms are over the sliding glass door. I would have made the ceiling 14' instead of 12' but it's alright.


  • last year

    @Ann On Tellico so did you keep mixed windows (a picture window, a casement window, and a transom winodw) all in one room?


    We were going to do casement windows and picture windows but I just found out what you had mentioned - that their profiles are different and they won't technically "match." They make casement picture windows that do match, I think we'll go that route, but I just found out that transom windows won't match either. Losing my mind over here! Not sure what to do now, we can't get rid of the transoms as we have vaulted ceilings and they go high up on the vaulted ceiling wall

  • last year

    I'd reach out to the window manufacturer for help. I feel your pain!!!

  • last year
    last modified: last year

    Did you guys keep a mix of casement & picture windows or just go all casement windows (since they have different sight lines and picture windows have narrower frames)?