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Lets see your 2019/2020 winter setups

First two doors of double glass low-e makes for 4 layers of glass on the south side upper wall.

Steve

Comments (41)

  • 7 years ago

    Steve, I have not moved my trees indoors yet, the sunroom is the space where they will go.

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked sunshine (zone 6a, Ontario,Canada)
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    If you know you are going to stay at a fine piece of realestate a big greenhouse is the ticket. You have to know a lot about it.Heating/cooling, ventilation, homemade in my case or traditional ones, quality, strong winds, hail damaged and a few others, like a wood stove in case of power failures. Lastly, age. In my case, I still managed to do thing that are very challenging to say the least but not for long.

    I have a good forum friend that has a large greenhouse, winter of 2017 or 18, his heater went out, it wiped out a lot of his fruit bearing trees. Problem: a little switch, 18 bucks plus labor.

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Monyet
  • 7 years ago

    Steve, thank you for this post! We are hoping to either buy or build one in the near future, just trying to figure out if we’re going to buy land or stay where we are.

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Kelley_GA8a
  • 7 years ago

    Kelley, I hope you do buy the land and move, good luck and please let us know.

    Sunshine, I can't wait to see your set up again.

    Steve, although yours may not be a true greenhouse, huge even, your imagination allows you to build one similar with a slight cost if at all. You are smart, savy, creative and helpful. Thank you.

    Bob, that is great advice. I too had a friend loose everything when he went on vacation. He even lost is prized chameleon and many lizards. I felt so bad for him. BUt believe it or not, many of his plants came back again during the summer because the roots didn't die, thank God.

    Mines is getting full now. Once I get some extra money soon, I might go bigger. I'm tired of small spaces.

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Meyermike(Zone 6a Ma.)
  • 7 years ago

    Hi everyone!

    I was busy trying to install my solar pool cover on my greenhouse today. Here is what is look like during our attempt:



    Thank you so much Mike for your suggestion about the solar pool cover. Usually, my greenhouse has the same temperature than outdoor during the nigh. Tonight, I see that my greenhouse is warmer than outside by 6 degree. I think that it could be warmer if we closed the door sooner!

    Bob, my god! My worst nightmare is the waken up one day and lose everything in my greenhouse!

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Amy (montreal, canada)
  • 7 years ago

    Amy, there are thousands of successful greenhouses growers with no big problems, small things could be your only things to worry about. What could go wrong with your setup, nothing, dear!

  • 7 years ago

    Actually in Montreal, 100s of things can go wrong, and some of them will. First in importance, the greenhouse needs two methods of heating. One to heat the greenhouse during Montreal's winter, and a second one to back up the main heater. Many growers have a main heater system, backed up by two additional backups. The greenhouse should most certainly have an alarm system that alerts Amy in her home when their is a temperature emergency.. Every greenhouse should have a covering that can withstand up to 100 MPH winds, even if they never come. I could go on and on with additional cautions.

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Silica
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Jodi, small greenhouses don’t need a elaborate system, alarm is cheap, heaters are also cheap, I don’t see much more. T5 lights would be better than led shop lights. They give some heat, a little better than led’s.

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Monyet
  • 7 years ago

    Bob, all greenhouses, large or small, need the protections I outlined. Especially in areas such as Canada, or take the risk of dead trees. It is up to Amy whether she wants to take the required precautions to insure the safety her collection. Heat failure will surely come when relaying on a single heater. Its only a matter of time.

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Silica
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    There are a lot of people that grow plants in places like mine and others for years, using just a little common sense, just a little. It’s not a big deal to be successful, Brian could chime in, he has the answer. You have to try it and see how this will take you.

    Buying a greenhouse is a decent layout,the rest is with the help of you and us a green signal, You go Amy.

    Amy, you might not be well aware of the benefits it give you, health wise, to engage in this , doing what you like to do. We all support you.

    Houzz has a post that reads, “Built a greenhouse in the shade” an interesting article building a none traditional greenhouse. I like it, it’s something I could built Myself.

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Monyet
  • 7 years ago

    Thanks Bob and Jodi for your inputs! I have been growing citrus for years but with my new greenhouse I feel like a toddler again because there so much to learn.

    I am kind of paranoid with everything so I have install a probe with an alert. I have two electric heaters and I plan to buy a propane heater this winter in case we have a power failure. Now, I am dealing with excessive humidity in my greenhouse and I am not sure what to do. I already have a fan but I am not sure if I should install a dehumidifier.

    Bob, thank you so much for your support! It’s true that having a greenhouse makes this hobby much easier. Without my greenhouse, my trees must be tucked in my basement and I will be dealing with some leaves and fruits drop by now.


    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Amy (montreal, canada)
  • 7 years ago

    Installed 4 layers of glass on east wall. looking east through GH


    looking west at New Zealand lemonade enclosure

    Start of Seed grown Fukushu kumquat enclosure.


    7 foot tree is entering 4th winter in ground outside.





    Growth spurt that pushes it from 6 feet to 7 feet

    Steve


  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Hey guys, haven't started to bring anything in yet, another week or so. There is LOTS of re arranging to do. The GH does have things in it, in ground trees and such. Still lots to put in.

    Amy will you not be heating it? I know it's still very early but what about Nov-Dec?

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Matt z5b - Greenhouse 10a
  • 7 years ago

    Steve, looking GOOD buddy!! Can you come to my place and do that for me? Ha. Nice job

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Meyermike(Zone 6a Ma.)
  • 7 years ago

    Amy, until it get really cold, you can always fold back the front of that draped pool cover to making getting in easily accessible. Then once the very cold air starts to move in, drape it back over the front and fold it like a gioft wrap and use bungie cords to keep it closed until you have to get in and help keep the coldd out))

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Meyermike(Zone 6a Ma.)
  • 7 years ago

    Matt, I already have to turn my heater on during the night in the greenhouse! How are your trees doing?


    Thank you Mike for the tips! My husband did something like that last week and I try to post the pictures but I can’t seem to post any picture. It’s really annoying! Grrrrr......


    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Amy (montreal, canada)
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Oh nooo Amy really that cold already.. hopefully it warms back up at least at night for ya :( Almost a month away so it was a great feeling coming home to most all of the citrus blooming. The in ground ponderosa lemon is doing great. Meyer is doing better now then it did all year. The weather is still nice here 16-18 during the day. running anywhere from 4-8 degrees at night for a few more days. Nothing has been put in the GH yet. Making room for everything this weekend.

    I know stupid houzz, can't post pics either while others can....

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Matt z5b - Greenhouse 10a
  • 7 years ago

    I just posted a pick of a mock orange blooms. I do t get why you guys can’t. I hate not seeing your pictures.

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Meyermike(Zone 6a Ma.)
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago



    Fukushu kumquat housing near done.



    3 more windows added today to NZL house



    Meiwa kumquat house.

    Steve

  • 7 years ago

    Is that a plumeria I see in there ?? Some figs too ? Citrus too ? A chair and bar too ? Ha. Love it. Hope you are doing well my friend. It looks so cozy and warm. I know where you will be spending your winter. What a great set up. Fan cover and all. Nice !! Even shelves ? Wow. All you need are a few fragrant orchids!!
    Mike )

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Meyermike(Zone 6a Ma.)
  • 7 years ago

    Steve looking real nice !!

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Meyermike(Zone 6a Ma.)
  • 7 years ago

    Here's a peak inside!


    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Matt z5b - Greenhouse 10a
  • 7 years ago

    Matt, very nice. Don't forget to leave a space for you to sit back and relax unless you'd prefer to put another tree. ha

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Meyermike(Zone 6a Ma.)
  • 7 years ago

    Steve, Matt! Well done! You two are so ressourceful! How do you guys water your plant during winter? Do you have a hose or you have to bring a watering can from your hose?


    Mike, you have very good eyes. Yes, I have a plumeria loll. It was a gift from my sister in law. I just love the fragant of this tree!

    my orchids are also in the greenhouse but you can‘t see them from this angle. I will try to take another picture tomorro. No bench for me loll I just one of those person that prefer to have another tree lollll... don’t laught! The true is that I love to look and examine my trees to see if they are alright so I don’t really need to sit loll

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Amy (montreal, canada)
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Mike you are so right. I will move things around and have a chair in there in about a month. There is nothing more rewarding then to be sitting in there in a snowstorm while it's 70F inside.


    Amy in the snowy part of winter I'll fill jugs and bring them out. I try to use the hose until a hard freeze. Things start to take longer to dry out Dec-Jan.

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Matt z5b - Greenhouse 10a
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    I hope everyones is ready! The first real "cold" hits tonight. -10c feeling like -15. Which is no where near normal temps here. Should be 5-7C this time of year. I just went out and got another heater. Now I have two, to be safe.

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Matt z5b - Greenhouse 10a
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago



    Heater for my valentine pomelo failed and was off for 35+ houres through a temperature drop to 17F. No damage though

    ----------------------------------------


    Heater failed on my Fukushu kumquat to and it survived with no damage. Tonight/tomorrow 12F predicted.

    Steve

  • 6 years ago

    Steve you must of insulated those trees well. Thank god they survived. Good job buddy

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Meyermike(Zone 6a Ma.)
  • 6 years ago


    More insulation near tree's base

  • 6 years ago

    Hey guys! How are your greenhouse temps? Today around 9am it was 22F outside and 52 in the greenhouse.



    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Matt z5b - Greenhouse 10a
  • 6 years ago

    Pocirus, your set-up fascinates me. Is this a temporary thing that you do every year?

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley
  • 6 years ago

    Every year requires a different setup to enclose the trees.

    Steve

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Vaporvac

    Where are you in the Ohio River valley. Z6 stretches almost 1000 miles.

    Steve

  • 6 years ago

    Cincinnati.

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley
  • 6 years ago

    Vaporvac

    Do you grow citrus trees and /or do any citrus grafting. I have grafted 3 citrus trees of my own. All 3 of them are inside though.

    Steve

  • 6 years ago

    No, unfortunately. I'm just getting into figs via the generosity of a forum friend in Dayton. I'm mainly Old roses and trying to learn grafting for them, but hope to learn for some fruit trees. Where are you? I never considered building a temporary housing, but like the idea. I has many advantages especially if one could keep make it interlocking or part of it permanent. I have something similar on my front vestibule.

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley
  • 6 years ago

    I am on the west side of the mount airy forest branch of the mill creek just south of I-74.

    Pear trees; Callery pear rootstock works great for fruiting pear scions These are the weed pear seedlings coming up all over the place from mutated Bradford pear seeds.

    Steve

  • 6 years ago

    Hope you kind and generous folk still want to talk greenhouses. I am in N Cal, in a sort of Bay Area, but more like Central Valley California climate, and about to buy a Sunglo lean-to. Of course I don't NEED it, but I WANT it, so I'm following greenhouse threads with interest, and would love some feedback.

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked nanelle_gw (usda 9/Sunset 14)
  • 6 years ago

    Where will it be going. Which model. At usda 9 you won't need anything fancy. Pictures of where its going.

    Steve

  • 6 years ago
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    This is the site. I've been making do with a sort of PVC low tunnel, covered with shadecloth in the summer, and frost blankets in the winter. I am hoping for a Sunglo model 1700 e lean-to greenhouse attached to my garage. The ground slopes up slightly, and I would need a foundation, and maybe a kneewall.

    Here is a link to their website http://www.sunglogreenhouses.com/

    and an installation video https://youtu.be/MpaABLAkC9k

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked nanelle_gw (usda 9/Sunset 14)
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