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Trying to ID a very hardy red climber

6 years ago

In my garden in Colorado zone 4 I had a climbing rose that the previous occupant of the house had planted. All she could tell me about it was that she had ordered it from a mail order seed catalogue. It has 8-10ft long arching canes which were quite stiff and hard to train, lovely dark green matte foliage, and clusters of red blooms from May to late June/early July. It only blooms once but the once lasts a good long time. The blooms look just like Valentine's Day in form and color but each bloom is about four inches across. The reason that I would love to id it is because it was always tip hardy for me with no winter protection and I never had to prune winter kill off. Which seems to be quite an accomplishment for a climber in zone 4. It only got about an hour or two of sun in the afternoon and the rest of the day it was in the shade of the house. Thanks heaps for any suggestions!

Comments (16)

  • 6 years ago

    It's highly likely the rose in question was Blaze or Blaze Improved. The difference between the two is "Improved" means it was from the mutation that provided some repeat bloom. The original seedling only flowered once. Blaze has been around for eighty-seven years and is VERY often found in catalogs and big box stores

    joeywyomingzone4 thanked roseseek
  • 6 years ago

    The difficult with that is Blaze is not the hardiest rose in the world. Maybe it could have been in a very protected microclimate.

    joeywyomingzone4 thanked mad_gallica (z5 Eastern NY)
  • 6 years ago

    Whether it's hardy or not, Blaze and Blaze Improved have been THE red climbers to be featured in the majority of seed and nursery catalogs for the past half century. Prior to that, it was Paul's Scarlet Climber, which isn't as hardy and is a parent of Blaze. Blaze and Improved have been, and continue to be the "go to" red climbers.J&P still offers it. It propagates easily; isn't easy to kill; and has name recognition.

    joeywyomingzone4 thanked roseseek
  • 6 years ago

    pictures would be great, over all and close up

    joeywyomingzone4 thanked wayne
  • 6 years ago

    Roseseek thank you for the help! I looked up Blaze on HMF and some of the pictures could be it.

    Madgallica it had a pretty rotten microclimate to be honest. Heavy clay soil with almost zero drainage that turned to cement like hardness if it wasn't soaking and soggy. Shade most of the day. Desert sun when it was sunny. -40 winters and 100+ summers.

    Wayne sorry it is such a poor picture, this is the only one I could find. The color is showing pretty accurately. We haven't lived in that house for almost a year and I wasn't great at taking garden pictures.


  • 6 years ago

    I should add that it was planted sometime between six years ago and twenty years ago, so it isn't super old.

  • 6 years ago

    You're welcome, Joey. From your photo, I would have guessed Blaze.

    joeywyomingzone4 thanked roseseek
  • 6 years ago

    Hopefully, mmmm12 will see this post. She had something similar that I think was ID'd as Blaze, but removed it as it only bloomed once. : (( That's a very pretty colour. I always though it was more orange-red.

    joeywyomingzone4 thanked Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley
  • 6 years ago

    Not a lot of roses can handle that cold without major die back, it would be nice to know more about it. Does it develop hips ? What color and shape. I ask because in the Far North we are always trying to find hardy roses, even if they are once bloomers.

    joeywyomingzone4 thanked wayne
  • 6 years ago

    From what I have been reading Blaze is hardy to zone 6 and they talk of repeat blooms through summer, I am guessing it is something else. Someone in the rose forum may have more ideas.

    joeywyomingzone4 thanked wayne
  • 6 years ago

    As I can recall it set smallish round hips. I will ask the new inhabitants of the house about taking some cuttings next time we are down there visiting family and see how it does in a different climate zone 4.

  • 6 years ago

    That sounds like a good idea. I haven't forgotten about your other post about dormant cutting so maybe tonight or tomorrow I'll answer that.

    joeywyomingzone4 thanked Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley
  • 6 years ago

    BenT thanks for the link, Cherry Frost is lovely! I can think of a few people who will appreciate the recommendation!

  • 6 years ago

    beautiful rose. I have not grown Blaze or improved based on reports of it not being hardy in our zone. I'm not convinced though, I am no expert and would trust roseseek. What about Dublin Bay? Do you remember if it was fragrant? I have heard that some roses wont repeat if not in enough sun.

    joeywyomingzone4 thanked Kelly Tregaskis Collova
  • 6 years ago

    Take a look at Alexander Mackenzie. It's an Explorer rose that I'm not too familiar with because it has blackspot issues in the East.

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