Makes sense. Thanks. I was more concerned about the table size but from your comment height and space is just as important

IMO it really depends on the fixture if it is light and airy you can go a bit bugger and I don’t think the height it is hung has anything to do with ceiling height the whole point is to light the table not the ceiling so make sure the bulbs are pointed down . Because this light is near the kitchen pendats they should work together too.

Cathy - if you haven't posted your lighting plan here I highly recommend you do. The lighting gurus here are really, really good.

The good rule is half the width of the table so no bigger than 20 inches, that being said, it does matter at least to me ceiling height, for example, if you get a fixture that is tall you won't have much cord and sometimes that ends up looking stuck to the ceiling. I would say around 15 inches would not be too cumbersome.

Got it. Completely and exactly what I wanted to know. Thanks!!!!

I always say make a cut out of the size you like to tack it to a string and pin to ceiling give you a feeling of visual space.