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Toro mower not much vacuum

6 years ago

I came across this 80's toro last year(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIwqt3GIlfw). I've used it now and then to cut grass which it does fine. I tried it last weekend to vacuum up leaves but it doesn't vacuum very much - mulch is fine.

I forgot to get a pic but the blade is like this one- https://www.ebay.com/itm/74-1042-Blade-21-for-Toro-42-1000-26-0880-high-lift-rear-bag-mowers-7-16-Bore/131424024568?hash=item1e997b77f8:g:Fy0AAOSw0w9d4JFK

Unlike my Ariens blade this one only has the corner bent up unlike a larger section bent up.

Anyone have this blade on your toro? Does it bag fine?

Do I need to get a high lift blade? I would like to know if doing so worked for other owners.

TIA.


Comments (10)

  • 6 years ago

    Not much of a wing on that blade. Are you sure it's the blade Toro recommends for bagging? Could you post a pic of the underside of your mower?

  • 6 years ago

    42-1000 was the standard rear bagging blade. Oregon makes a similar super high lift blade which is a 94-770 which you could compare. It was for the odd Vacu Power deck. Is this a compliance mower? Meaning, as new, that you must hold the bail to keep it running? If not it is a pre '83. When I look at the mower, it looks like at one point maybe the deck was switched. The TNT 100's were to run I think at only 2650 RPMs, so they ran much slower than the CPSC -which on 21" were normally set at 3150. Slow RPMs or a real dirty bag can have an effect on bagger performance.

    The reason I bring up the deck is the deck is for a compliance mower plus it has the holes that held the triangular kicker plates. So if the deck has the kickers installed, remove them for bagging. Same should the blade have an accelerator mounted below it.

    They also made a leaf shredder attachment if you can find one. They were new overpriced for what they were and needed to pretty much be mulching only leaves. Nice looking machine.

  • 6 years ago

    yt125 - this is the blade that was on there when i found the mower. Being the bolt needed the jaws of life to get loose, i assume it is the original.


    tomplum - no bail, no kicker. I found a blade yesterday that might work(the center hole is bigger than the original). It is similar to the green blade i posted. Being the center hole is bigger, Ill be lucky if it get it perfectly centered but ill try it and get an answer to my original question...


    Ill get a picture of the underside.


    Thanks.

  • 6 years ago

    Oops!!! My Bad TomP.!! I just looked up "kicker plate" and i think these are the triangle blocks. I thought you were talking about another part.

    I removed 2 of them and put the original blade back on. Ill find out tomorrow if this is the whole cause. I attached the underside pic anyway.


    ps Tomp - this mower has the muffler going down under the deck so either if someone swapped this motor, they sure found a perfect fit.


  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    These model Toro,s where the best rear baggers of the day . However they were not designed for wet grass usage of course as you can see by the small air foil designed blade !

  • 6 years ago

    The kickers deflect the clippings back downward, that's why less grass will go into the bag. The recycler deck is meant to be used with the recycler blade. I thought that I saw the model tag at the rear of the deck on your video. Model and first two of the serial?

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Tom, u were right. removing the kickers and now the bag fully "inflates" now bagging normal. When i got it last year, the bag didn't fully inflate and i thought it was normal as it is old and all. I didnt really care as the only time i bag is when mulching leaves. I usually use my other 80's mower - Ariens for that. Interesting they sell u a bagging mower that had the kicker mulch pieces but without a mulching blade - the mower that cannot decide if she is a bagger or mulcher..

    " I thought that I saw the model tag at the rear of the deck " you can read the model\SN in the video? you sure have better vision than i do!

    I don't know why i cannot attach anything but it is model 20790 SN2029550 FWIW.

  • 6 years ago

    1982 model. I don't remember pre compliance mowers having the kickers. They came a little later. And I thought the video showed the little bosses for the kicker screws. That's why I thought the housing was replaced. A 4 HP is a bit light to have kickers anyways. All that should be below the blade is an anti-scalp disc. If it has wings, it doesn't belong there either. Still, a nice mower to have!

  • 6 years ago

    "A 4 HP is a bit light " you know, for a 4, it seems to cut thick grass(not to mention bag these leaves) as well as the briggs quantum 6.5's i come across now and then. This and my Ariens(80s 5hp tecumseh) dont bog down. It makes me wonder if current HP is inflated because i have a Model23 (9hp points ignition and all) but it sure looks like the Briggs 12.5 (dimension wise) on my sears riding mower(also 80's)


    I have been racking up too many toys. Being i have the 80s ariens and snappers(among other stuff), if u r in the dallas area, let me know- u can have this Toro. Just like the 60's Snowbirds I gave away to the Snowbird forum members, cant get much for them and would rather someone who appreciates them have it than sell it to someone who will scrap it when it wont start 6 mos. from now.

  • 6 years ago

    No, not for me. Thanks though. Try this: Retro lawnmower for sale! Or list it as a non compliance mower. You think that people would snap up on that.