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Crape Myrtle Natchez spacing to create a border

6 years ago
last modified: 6 years ago

I’m trying to create a privacy border similar to the picture below at the back of my backyard using Crape Myrtle Natchez. The length is about 40 feet. The garden center said I can plant 8 trees 5 feet apart but everything online says they should be much further apart. I don’t think it will be an issue at first because I’m buying 15 gallon trees but as they grow will it be an issue? I do want them as close as possible. Thoughts/ suggestions?




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  • PRO
    6 years ago

    Natchez Crape Myrtle's get very tall & wide. Consider using Acoma Crape Myrtles

    melissachiodi thanked Dig Doug's Designs
  • 6 years ago

    Thanks for the advice. I’ll look into it.

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    The garden center is selling trees so, of course, they want you to space them as closely together as you could be convinced was reasonable.

    I look for opportunities to see if the tree spacing can be coordinated with any of the background. Here, there is a fence panel repeating at distinct intervals -- probably 8'. Yet for the height of tree you need (as it will have proportionate width) that still seems like a bit tight of spacing, if you want the trees to display some character as individuals, and not just a monolithic background screen. As a compromise, I would consider a wider spacing, such as every other other fence panel (every 16' +/-) and making it a double row. That way you still get a solid screen, but the front row of trees stand out with enough separation from each other that they read as individuals, not just generic screening. (A single row at 8' on center would look like a giant hedge.) And you have plenty of yard depth to do it. Of course, the backs of the front row will blend together with the fronts of the back row, but since you won't see it from your primary viewpoint, it won't be a point that matters.

    With tree screening, the fence itself and the ground space below the trees can become quite dark. The fence will tend to disappear into a black hole. The conditions stand a good chance of being unfriendly to growing shrubs, and much more suitable to growing groundcover ... like a mass of ferns or something. At any rate, you'd probably want all the space below trees to be a bed rather than lawn, since grass isn't going to grow, giving you the opportunity to cut down on mowing.

    Natchez can be a lovely tree, but with a background of open sky -- often almost white -- a white flower color strikes me as likely to be disappointingly underwhelming. In your inspiration picture, where there is dark forest behind the right-side trees, the white flowers stand out. But at the left-side trees, the white flowers are lost in the upper portion of the trees. 'Muskogee' -- also a big crape -- strikes me as a much more effective flower color choice. Anything BUT white in a big crape would work.


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  • 6 years ago

    accomplishing YOUR goal ... has little to do with other peoples opinion on spacing ...


    small plants... in this case trees .. can grow together to form one full sight block ... with little problem ... becasee ma nature is taking care of it ... if on the other hand..; you take large specimens.. and jam them together... there might be some interior die back and requisite pruning... because you are forcing them together ...


    small plants... in this case tree/shrubs .. can grow together to form one full sight block ... with little problem ... because ma nature is taking care of it ...


    if on the other hand... you take large specimens.. and jam them together... there might be some interior die back and requisite pruning... because you are forcing them together ... and that would not be a big deal ....


    next ... if you want to prune them up ... so the part below the fence is bare ... perhaps for other plants ... with the sight block above ... using the trunks as an architectural aspect ... then you space them further apart ... for that part of the goal ...


    soooo .. it all boils down to YOUR vision ... and how.. over the next 5 to 10 years ... you act to accomplish it ... and you simply arent going to find some reference to exactly what you want ...


    if you can put into words.. exactly what you want to accomplish.. then we can help guide you to accomplish your goal ...


    and as noted... this is going to happen in tree time.. which we count in decades .. [or with shrubs perhaps 3 to 5 year segments...] .... unless you have the budget to make it happen.. asap ...


    ken



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  • 6 years ago

    Thanks everyone. Taking it all in...

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Bare trunks in front of a wood fence with nothing else planted in front of the fence is not my idea of attractive.

    US National Arboretum crape-myrtle poster showing how they look (when not lopped, stripped or topped i. e. mal-pruned) and listing other details including typical heights produced by each selection.

    https://www.crapemyrtle.com/uploads/2/7/8/1/27814181/usna_crapemyrtleposter.pdf


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  • 6 years ago

    Natchez is my favorite CM. The best feature, imho, is the cinnamon bark. Keep in mind Crape myrtles are deciduous and aren't going to provide any privacy in winter months. I didn't notice anyone had mentioned it above, and I felt it's important to note that since you're looking for privacy.