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Grandmother's hat as a climber?

5 years ago

Hi,

I purchased a Grandmother's Hat from Annie's after reading all of the great information about it on this site. I just got it today, and it looks GREAT!

Annie's says it can be used as a climber, but I haven't really seen any pictures of this. Does anybody grow her as a climber? Would she be trainable along a fence? Or would is she best as a free-standing shrub?

Finally, how much heat can she take? Or is she happiest with a little shade?

Thank you so much!

Lizzie

Comments (6)

  • 5 years ago

    Unfortunately, I don't have any photos. Whether you can easily train her along a fence would depend upon how tall the fence is. She isn't as limber as a Wichurana rambler, but she can be encouraged to grow upon supports like arches and on walls like climbers. Plant her where you want her to grow and start training her as you would other climbers. Work with her and see how much of your input she's happy with. The plant just WANTS to grow and flower. As for heat, the plant will take a great deal of heat, as long as it isn't the killing kind of reflected, radiated heat from too close, too continuous exposure against overheated walls. Though the plant will tolerate as much heat as any other rose plant, the flowers aren't particularly "heat resistant". They are wonderfully scented and that requires rather soft petals. They don't have the "heavy petal substance" unscented types so often used for exhibition and floral work do, so don't be disappointed when the individual blooms don't endure days of triple digits. Keep her well watered and she'll keep pumping them out, probably nearly twelve months of the year in Zone 10a. Mine did in Encino, also 10a. You're going to LOVE this rose!

    Lizzie Rae 10a thanked roseseek
  • 5 years ago

    Congratulations on getting GH! I have two, and the first one I planted immediately grew to about 7 ft tall, even without any support or encouragement. So, I do think it would grow horizontally on a fence, if you trained it. I presume yours is on its own roots, as I think that is how Annie's sells them. That is good. We have one of ours growing in a raised bed my DH built for it out of those large concrete fake stone things which are sold as tree surrounds. After about 5 years a new cane suddenly appeared, growing between two of the concrete blocks, trying to escape the raised bed - that rose is very strong grower. Lovely. If the Spring is unusually wet, sometimes mine get "damask crud", but I just take all of the leaves off, and they immediately puts out a new batch of clean lovely leaves. The rest of the year I never see any disease on them.


    Jackie

    Lizzie Rae 10a thanked jacqueline9CA
  • 5 years ago

    Yes ma'am, Annie sells her roses own root. As far as I know, about the only way to get a budded GH would be to supply bud wood for custom propagation or obtain it from Malcolm through an FSC sale on Fortuniana. The only reason I could think of to want it budded would be on Fort. due to the nematodes. Otherwise, there doesn't seem to be ANY reason to bud GH or any of her color variations. She's good enough own root to be used as a root stock. Kippy's plant in Santa Barbara has formed a thicket around the back corner of her home and tosses out various flowers of all three colors. Gorgeous!

    Lizzie Rae 10a thanked roseseek
  • 5 years ago

    BTW, I'm not ignoring your posts, Jackie and Jeri. "Like" is now not working for me, either. Your second photo should easily show how GH can be tied in against a support like a "climbing" rose, Jeri. She really is one of the most cooperative roses I can think of.

    Lizzie Rae 10a thanked roseseek
  • 5 years ago

    Wow! This is all really helpful information. Thank you all so much. It sounds like I have a lot of really great options. I'm so excited to have this rose, and feel like I might need to get a few more :-)


    Roseseek - Thank you so much for the information about the heat. That is really helpful. You make me really excited to have this rose!


    Jackie - Thanks for the information about the damask crud :-) It is good to know in advance that this might happen.


    Jeri - It sounds like I need to get a few more plants! :-) One for the fence, and one for a slightly shadier area where it can grow freestanding and do what it wants. Your pictures were definitely inspiration for buying this variety! Thank you so much for your wisdom.


    I'll be sure to take pictures when it is more established.


    -Lizzie


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