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What is your favortie rose class.....

6 years ago

I thought it might be interesting to discuss the class of roses that we love.... feel free to add more questions....


What Zone are you.... zone 10 Palm Beach Country Florida


What is your favorite rose class? David Austins


Is it your favorite because it does well for you? No. It does good, but not better than my Bourbon's


Do you actually grow your favorite rose class? Several of them.... Evelyn, Abe Darby, Spirit of Freedom, Sharifa Asma ..... I have a few others that I do not know their names


What makes you like this particular class best? Their strong scent and their romantic look. Rebloom time.


Has it always been your favorite class...... if not how many times have you changed your favorite class..... No. Two times. My first love is the hybrid tea.... to me that is what rose should look like..... but it seemed to me that they did not have as many flowers and the scent wasn't very strong. I want scent most of all.


Is their a class that you would like to grow, but it doesn't do well in your area. I also love the look of albas. They supposedly will not bloom here.... I thought about getting this for my mother-in-law in zone 4..... though she is a snowbird and I wonder if it is a once bloomer would it bloom before she arrives in May (New Hampshire) which would defeat the purpose.....


List yours..... you can cut and paste the questions

What is your favorite rose class?

Is it your favorite because it does well for you?

Do you actually grow your favorite rose class?

What makes you like this particular class best?

Has it always been your favorite class...... if not how many times have you changed your favorite class.....

Is their a class that you would like to grow, but it doesn't do well in your area.

Comments (24)

  • 6 years ago

    What zone;

    7a/7b

    What is your favorite rose class:

    Hybrid Tea


    Is it your favorite because it does well for you;

    No. I cut my teeth on Hybrid Tea's. They have always done great for me though.


    Do you actually grow your favorite rose class:

    Oh yes. To the tune of 57 bush's by this spring.


    What makes you like this particular class best;

    I'd have to say the cut flowers. I've taken many vase's of roses to different places but when I bring a vase of HT's people go banana's over them. So do I.


    Has it always been your favorite class----if not, how many times have you changed your favorite class;

    HT's have always been #1 for me. Although I grow just about every class of roses and enjoy what I grow.


    Is there a class that you would like to grow, but it doesn't do well in your area;

    I am blessed with the fact that I live in an area where I can grow every type of rose sold in the United States and it does well for me.


    On a side note, I spray during the growing season for fungal diseases and I don't put a $25 rose into a $.50 hole.


    sharon2079 thanked Ken Wilkinson
  • 6 years ago

    What is your favorite rose class? perpetuals or tea

    Is it your favorite because it does well for you? Teas do well and perpetuals do ok a lot are new so I’m not sure how they will do.

    Do you actually grow your favorite rose class? Yes , for perpetuals I have general Washington, old town Novato, moser house, irene ford, copperopolis bar, and grandmas hat. For teas i have comtess de luess, duchess brabant , dr rouges and lady roberts

    What makes you like this particular class best? I like the look of the Very full petaled perpetual blooms and the nodding habit of teas and the vase shaped buds.

    Has it always been your favorite class...... if not how many times have you changed your favorite class..... I have always liked both classes

    Is their a class that you would like to grow, but it doesn't do well in your area. Not sure, I can grow most classes in my area

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  • 6 years ago
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    My favorite class that I cannot grow are Teas. I love the blowsy blooms, subtle color variation and quilled petals, a trait some don't care for. These roses make me weak in the knees.

    When I started growing roses, my favorites were any OGR. I wasn't particular if they were pink and rebloomed. I had a lot of Hybrid Perpetuals.

    The class I love that I can grow are shrubs because they look at home in my informal garden. Their untamed, sprawling form seems more appropriate.

    High centered HTs are a little formal for me, but I have a few that I love, such as Rouge Royale, Augusta Luise, Princess Charlene de Monaco and I'm adding more this year.

    Oops, I just realized I was supposed to adhere to the form. I think I answered the questions, though.






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  • 6 years ago


    I’m in zone 9a, SoCal

    What is your favorite rose class?

    Floribundas. The variety, the comparatively compact size, the generally bushy shape, the ease of pruning,

    Is it your favorite because it does well for you?

    Sort of. That’s an equivocal answer, isn’t it? Yes, they do well here, given the right ciercumstances including drip watering.

    Do you actually grow your favorite rose class?

    Oh yes. I have five new ones coming this spring.

    What makes you like this particular class best?

    See my answer to first question,

    Has it always been your favorite class...... if not how many times have you changed your favorite class.....

    I started with Austins, moved into teas, bought a few HTs, and then began with floribundas. I have limited space so I can’t get any more teas, alas. I would certainly get more if I had the room.

    Is their a class that you would like to grow, but it doesn't do well in your area.

    Hybrid perpetual — I had some, they all bombed in summer heat. Gallicas — not for SoCal. Rugosas too. Oh yes, and Portlands!


    Let’s not forget minifloras and miniatures. Minifloras are beautiful, but they need a lot of TLC in the early stages. Two years ago I bought five; one died almost at once, two have never bloomed much, two are stalwart and frequent bloomers.

    I have three (or is it five?:)) miniatures coming this spring. Excited about that.

    Climbers: I have two, waiting on a third.

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  • 6 years ago

    Sylvia, Jacques Cartier, Comte de Chambord, Portland from Glendora and Yolande d'Aragon were all decent to very good in my old Newhall and Granada Hills gardens and a client's garden Stevenson Ranch, Santa Clarita. Rose de Wretch was far from satisfactory in Newhall and Granada Hills, being EXTREMELY susceptible to rust (the others had no such issues where they were grown). So, if you really want to try Portlands and haven't where you are, those four should give you some to whet your appetite. In the same gardens, Cardinal de Richelieu flowered and grew very well (grew FAR too well, so bud it or keep it in a huge can over flowing magma to control it). HP's are hit and miss, but any of the Grandmother's Hat tribe should help to satisfy that need. Good luck!

  • 6 years ago
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    What is your favorite rose class? Gallica, Hybrid Chinas, and Teas

    Is it your favorite because it does well for you? No

    Do you actually grow your favorite class.

    What makes you like this particular class best? I love how the Gallicas grow, I think they make the prettiest bushes, I love the colors, I am just in love with them, I love the Hybrid Chinas for their differences, they are just a bigger Gallica, and so much more! I love the Tea Roses for their all season bloom, and their beautiful blooms. Most of mine are young, but they are doing much better up front.

    What makes you like this particular class best? Mad Gallicas, Need say more? If you have ever seen and loved the Tea roses, they need no elaboration.

    Has this always been my favorite class of .Mme Lombard changed my mind on the Tea Roses..... if not how many times have you changed your favorite class..... once

    Is their a class that you would like to grow, but it doesn't do well in your area. Not really. I can grow them all. Some take more care than I can give or don't like my humidity. But I have no time for fussy roses.



    Not sure how much longer I can post. It's getting hard tp type on houzz. Regular houzz erases everything I type as I type it. And foxfire is starting to mess up as well, and doing so causes headaches. Wish I could fix it.

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  • 6 years ago

    Roseseek, thanks for the tip. The roses you mentioned are all ones I like. If I have an open spot — which doesn’t seem likely unless I remove something else — it would be a tough choice, but Portland from Glendora might be the one,

  • 6 years ago
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    Moses here.....

    Hybrid Tea is still my favorite class. I will say though, that many roses classed as Hybrid Tea roses are misclassed, IMHO. It appears that if the rose breeder calls a new variety a Hybrid Tea, it is so ordained. A clear definition of what I believe a classic Hybrid Tea is, is outlined below:

    1. Large, 4"+ blooms, held mostly at the top 1/3 off the bush

    2. Mostly one bloom, usually not nodding, on top of each long stem

    3. Exhibition form bloom...high centered, heavy petaled, with petals spiraling out from the bloom's pinhole center

    4. Bush form, very vertical,,and not very wide with "naked knees," a bedding rose, not a stand alone or centerpiece rose bush

    5. Traditionally very disease prone, but modern Hybrid Teas are being bred with excellent disease resistance, performing very well in no fungicide spray gardens

    6. Winter hardiness to the tips without protection in my zone 6b is poor, except for an ever increasing number of new generation Hybrid Teas

    7. Fragrance varies considerably in the Hybrid Tea class, with most varieties being scentless. However, there are some fragrance standouts, like: Mr. Lincoln, Double Delight, Tiffany, and Jadis to name some older HTs. Newer roses classed as HTs, like: Beverly, Savannah, Dee Lish, Moonlight Romantica, and Princess Charlene of Monaco are known for their fragrance.

    8. Lest I forget, the continual bloom of Hybrid from spring to fall is all important for me.

    Strangely, although Hybrid Teas are my favorites, I don't grow but a handful of them. Winter die back and black spot susceptibility, and my preference for fragrant roses, has kept their numbers in my garden limited. Happily, this is changing as I slowly add more DURABLE, fragrant Hybrid Teas, as winter tender roses are no longer being protected, and replacing them is expected. I look forward the change to my rose bed and that it will be easier to maintain, and be more beautifu!, too.

    Moses

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  • 6 years ago
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    Alana, I have the same trouble with Houzz. I cannot tell you how many accumulated hours worth of typing messages that have d disappeared right in front of my eyes.

    Here's an idea. If you want to participate in the Roses Forum, type the first few words of your message, then press SUBMIT. Then go to EDIT, and continue typing a few more sentences, press SUBMIT, and repeat the process until you are finished. Troublesome? Yes, but it works!

    Moses

  • 6 years ago

    Alana , Houzz has been erasing everything I type for about a year now . That is why my posts are short and sweet because it takes forever to type . I wonder why it does that ?

    Favorite rose category ?

    I like a shorter rose so I usually grow floribundas

    But my favorite look is a big loose bloom, romantic and fragrant

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  • 6 years ago

    What is your favorite rose class? Climbers, although this is a "cheater" class because it can include so many of my other favourites such as polys and Hybrid Musks. : ))


    Is it your favorite because it does well for you? So far, so good. I have only grown New Dawn and Viking Queen for any length of time and they have done so well I was encouraged to branch out such that at least a third of my roses are now climbers. I only planted most of them in the ground 2019 after having them in pots for a year or two. NTS: climbers prefer to be in the ground!


    Do you actually grow your favorite rose class? Yes! See above answer!


    What makes you like this particular class best? The romance! There is nothing like layer upon layer of roses over fences, arbors, pergolas or pillars. One can swag them, grow them up walls, trees, essentially making them into whatever one wants or just let them sprawl all over themselves. If well chosen, they always seem to add by enhancing or even disguising their armature.


    Has it always been your favorite class...... if not how many times have you changed your favorite class..... I think it's always been my favourite. I just never had the proper sunny space to grow them until the trees died!

    Is there a class that you would like to grow, but it doesn't do well in your area? I would like to grow teas, but we're much too cold for them. I have a couple I'm keeping as pot babies until I pass them on.


    I'd like to add another question? What, if any,thing, don't you like about your favourite class? That's an easy one for me. DEAD-HEADING!!! : D

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  • 6 years ago
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    My favorites would echo what Vapor says. I love the Teas, thanks to Ingrid. I love the romantic, naturalistic style. Most roses grow well here, but I fell in love with Ingrid's roses in truth before I had ever seen any of them in person or could grow them (in my formerly cold locations.)

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  • 6 years ago

    Vaporvac.... glad you added a question.

    What do I like least about my favorite class..... That would be the colors..... I really like purple and lavender. Don't see many and the couple that I do are not listed for zone 10 or they are once bloomers. ..... I don't mind deadheading... but I guess climbers are much much larger.


  • 6 years ago

    LOL Sharon! Here are just a fraction of the buds

    on one of six New Dawn! Click to enlarge.

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  • 6 years ago

    List yours..... you can cut and paste the questions

    What is your favorite rose class? ...tea-noisettes

    Is it your favorite because it does well for you? ...They do OK but I think polyanthas and at least some hybrid musks are better suited to my garden.

    Do you actually grow your favorite rose class? ...Yes. But I wish I had more.

    What makes you like this particular class best? ...Well, do you like roses that bloom? Do you have useful vision and can smell? Do you believe that too much of a good thing is just right? If so, you'll understand why.

    Has it always been your favorite class...... Before I found my way here, I had no idea what a tea-noisette was. Even now, I realize that it isn't a formal recognized class. Like I care.

    Is their a class that you would like to grow, but it doesn't do well in your area. ...I've always wanted to grow Belle Portugaise but it gets too cold here. So, hybrid giganteas.

    The one thing I don't like about my favorite class is that they get so big it makes it hard for me to have very many. But I'm so happy and grateful to have what I do.

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  • 6 years ago
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    What is your favorite rose class?

    Modern Reproductions (i.e. “English roses”). They don’t have to be David Austin roses, and I don’t like all Austins.


    Is it your favorite because it does well for you?

    Nope. My climate is far from an English climate, and the plants show it. This is Hybrid Tea country. All my neighbors grow Hybrid Teas and only Hybrid Teas.


    Do you actually grow your favorite rose class?

    Yes. With variable success.


    What makes you like this particular class best?

    What I like are the quartered roses especially the cupped ones, whose flowers are held gracefully, have strong fragrance, and repeat. It doesn’t matter what class they are, actually, but the English Roses are most likely to fit the bill.


    Has it always been your favorite class?

    Yes. I didn’t like roses very much until I laid eyes on David Austin roses, specifically Abraham Darby. It was love at first sight.


    Is there a class that you would like to grow, but it doesn't do well in your area?

    In addition to the English style roses (which as I mentioned, don’t do particularly well in my garden), I would like to be able to grow Teas. I would love to grow Mrs. BR Cant, and Lady Hillingdon, but after seeing Mrs. BR Cant struggle after a mild winter here, I decided not to keep trying.

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  • 6 years ago


    What is your favorite rose class? Tea roses and Hybrid Perpetuals


    Mlle. de Sombreuil

    Maman Cochet

    Grandmother's Hat

    Is it your favorite because it does well for you? No. My gardens have been in places where a lot of roses perform well. I have an appreciation for and see distinguishable differences between these rose versus those in other classes.

    Do you actually grow your favorite rose class? Not at the moment as I do not have space for them and am not sure if H.P.'s would perform well here...

    What makes you like this particular class best? The leaves, shape of the bush, and overall charm that I just do not see in many of the other, but not all classes of roses.

    Has it always been your favorite class...... if not how many times have you changed your favorite class..... Yes, but I did not know it at the time. I saw Mrs. John Lainge on the cover of a magazine and was captivated. I purchased the magazine to learn about this plant. Well, I discovered that it was a rose and went to my local garden center in search of something like it, but found a bunch of Hybrid Teas and a handful of Austins. Austins just kind of baffled me at the time. I wanted more, and started ordering from J& P, Edmunds, Regan and some other online nursery that is out of business. Fast forward 13 years, I was creating a new garden but thought the roses I knew of were not what I was looking for. I began an online search and stumbled into this forum. I found what I was searching for and more. The rest is history...

    Is their a class that you would like to grow, but it doesn't do well in your area.

    I still covet many of the Gallicas but lack the Winter chill to make them happy.

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  • 6 years ago
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    other than my zone is 9B , Ken Wilkinson wrote all my answers !

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  • 6 years ago

    I would answer this, but I honestly cant pick just one class of roses. If it will grow here and its pretty I will like it.

    I do have a lot of climbers even though that isnt an actual 'class' lol. Probably half my roses are climbers here even some of the roses that aren't supposed to be. I guess its our climate.

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  • 6 years ago

    I simply can't choose a favorite class yet. I have been gardening forever but only have been growing roses a couple of years now so maybe once I've grown them longer I can choose a favorite. So far I adore my hybrid musks, Felicia and Ballerina; I love Paul Ricault which is guess is sort of Centifolia maybe HP? I have some hybrid teas that blow me away, Maria Callas and Fragrant Cloud; I love Bolero and Julia Child and quite a few other floribundas. The Buck shrub roses have stolen my heart. I have several Gallicas I'm really impressed with. I just don't know LOL!

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  • 6 years ago

    Zone: 5b, Greater Toronto Area, Ontario, Canada

    Favourite Rose Class: Shrub Roses/English roses, used to like Hybrid Teas

    Favourite Breeder: David Austins and Kordes

    Does it do well: English roses is a hit or miss in my area. Some do very well while others does not

    Kordes roses seems to do better in my area.

    Grow favourite class: Golden Celebration, L.D.Braitwaite, Evelyn, Teasing Georgia, Jude the

    Obscure, Othello, Crown Princess Margaretta, Cinderella, Julia Child and many

    roses whose name I forgot now

    Reason it is my favourite class: I like the shrub look because it looks fuller in my garden

    compared to Hybrid Teas for example. I also like the fact that there are multiple

    flowers instead of one or two flowers on a stem. This is important because I have

    a short growing season.

    Has it always been my favourite class: No. I have always love hybrid teas. However, as

    mentioned above, I was slowly converted by fellow posters of this forum to

    love the old rose look. I used to hate the english rose look as I called the flowers

    the "cabbage" look. I changed my mind when I grew Golden Celebration and L.D.

    Braithwaite more than 20 years ago. They are still thriving at the front of my

    house and the first flush is just glorious.

    Rose class I wish I could grow: Climbers. It is my fantasy to have glorious climbers against my

    fences filled with flowers each season.

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  • 6 years ago

    I saw this heading when it was first posted, and ignored it.

    But after seeing it again today, I read every comment.

    Thank you, sharon, for starting the most interesting discussion I can remember here in a long time ( and possibly ever).

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  • 6 years ago

    It's not exactly a class although it includes several, but my favorite roses are climbers. I just love walking by a wall of roses and breathing.