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Modern Moss Rose seeds

6 years ago

I have enough self-set seeds from the rose Ralph Moore named for me, Kim Rupert, to share with approximately three people here in the Continental United States. I can't send them overseas as I won't deal with phytosanitary certificates for export. My area does not have Chilli Thrips. The seeds have been shelled from the hips and still have a bit of the hip flesh on them. They have not been cold stratified, but from experience, they germinate without it. I would expect to obtain striped, mossed seedlings from them, but pretty much anything is possible! The parentage of the original rose is Golden Angel X 44 Stripe. Golden Angel is a fertile triploid so it can produce some rather unusual combinations. 44 Stripe contains Dortmund, Fairy Moss, Little Darling, Ferdinand Pichard, Pinocchio, William Lobb and a few other odds and ends. If you're interested and know what to do with them, please message me with your mailing information. Thanks! Kim

Comments (15)

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Ohh that's cool! I would do it, but my seed germination is iffy, and sometimes what does come up doesn't survive my care. I'm still very much in the playing stage with seeds, as I'm still collecting , was supposed to be done, but lol, you know how that goes. Hopefully with concentrate on seeds soon! I did stick some out from my roses!

  • 6 years ago

    I hope I can do this someday, Kim. I'll have to try to germinate some other things first, to hone my technique. Moss roses might be my favorites. :)

  • 6 years ago

    If you like mosses and are interested, practice on these! They will simply take a first class stamp to get them to you, so it isn't as if there is a HUGE investment involved. The hips formed on the plant and I considered whether to simply dead head the plant and toss them or offer them to anyone wanting something fun to play with. You're completely welcome to them if you desire them. Honestly!


  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Ok well sure, I'll try them then! Just message me, I can't message you, so I can get you my address.

    roseseek thanked Alana8aSC
  • 6 years ago

    OK, Alana, I just messaged you for your last name and address so I can mail them out today for you to have them by the weekend, hopefully!

  • 6 years ago

    Kim, if you've any seeds left to share i would love some!

    roseseek thanked seil zone 6b MI
  • 6 years ago

    Hi Seil! I'm sorry. I sent out the three batches of that one I had this afternoon at the post office. I'm sure I can dig up something to intrigue you, if you're interested.... Do you knowGrimaldi? Here, it has HUGE, brilliant flowers and is RUDELY healthy. I will have to root around out back tomorrow to see what else there might be. Oh! I don't know if there might be any repeaters from them, but there are self seeds from the "black" one. Large, strong, thornless, totally clean here, not much scent and no repeat from the original, which is why I was looking at it as a potential standard stock.



  • 6 years ago

    Oh, Kim, I will thankfully accept anything you are gracious enough to give! Do you still have my address? How do you want payment?

    roseseek thanked seil zone 6b MI
  • 6 years ago

    Hi roseseek,

    I am not asking for the hips... but information instead. I know that the leaves which looks mossy gives off scent.... but where do these roses grow best. I never see them here in Florida zone 10. Do they need cold or a chill factor. Do they bloom continually, in flushes, or just once.

    Thanks for any information that you provide.

    Sharon

  • 6 years ago

    If you're still on Lakeland, I have the address. What payment? Happy birthday! LOL!

  • 6 years ago

    Hi Sharon2079, modern moss roses don't have the same requirements the OGR mosses tend to have. The old mosses were mutations of old rose types and often required some winter cold to be at their best. Not all, but a number did. Modern mosses are actually genetic mosses and not mutations. Through decades of breeding, Ralph Moore refined, distilled, what he termed "the mossing factor" so that you can literally breed for mosses and it isn't a hit and miss proposition as it once was. His moss miniatures require pretty much the same conditions as traditional miniatures. The issue you may have with them in Florida are probably fungal. Those dense bristles, which are part of the "mossing factor", tend to trap fungi spores and moisture. Many of them tend not to be terribly black spot resistant, though Paul Barden's moss minis are probably better in that regard than most of Mr. Moore's. Look at his Unconditional Love, Mel Hulse,

    perhaps Treasure Trail. Hopefully @paulbarden will see this and offer his insights whether any of these might perform well in the humid south.

  • 6 years ago

    Wonderful! I will start sorting and digging tomorrow and let you know when they are in the air!

  • 6 years ago

    roseseek, thanks for the information.

    roseseek thanked sharon2079
  • 6 years ago

    You're welcome. I would try some and see what they do and how you like them. I would think the most disease resistant would be Moore's Scarlet Moss and Paul's Unconditional Love and Mel Hulse.