Correction flagstone walk is 3’ wide space betw arch arms is 5’ so need inside rose to be the one that has more vertical growth habit....thanks so much guys!

I only grow Lav Crush, and it’s quite vertical (rather stiff). Hopefully someone will chime in about QS.

I haven’t had quicksilver long enough to be 100 percent certain but it seems pretty relaxed to me . I agree with Ben about lavender crush .

Thanks Ben and Lily, Crush was my original choice for outside, I saw your picture Ben with its vertical growth above roof. I assumed it grew like Lady Eve. Reading about Quick on threads here I started doubting my decision. Well lets hope Quick is more amenable to my desires.

FYI - chose Lav Crush for its future spot because of that picture. Pictures of roses growing in peoples beds is just so so helpful I think.

My Quicksilver was pretty flexible. My LC is straight as a poker. Not very pretty shrub, but gorgeous flowers. (Probably needs some pruning.)

Both are quite thorny. :-)

My grafted Quicksilver is a monster and the canes are thick. My grafted Lav Crush has thinner canes. My 2 own root Quicksilvers also have thinner canes than my grafted QS.

I just did an arch with my grafted QS on one side with the Lav Crush in front of it. It will be tight but they both have room spread in other directions and I will have to keep them tied good.

On the other side I have one of my own root QS and I left a spot in front for when I find another LC (so there's basically 2 roses on each side) lol.

Geez I hope I have not created a monster with these 2! I love the flowers on each- color and form. I opted for grafted due to my 75yrs and wanting instant reward these days. Over the years I always chose own root if I had a choice, if not I created my own then removed the grafted. I may have screwed the pooch on these choices but guess that is why shovels were created. sure hate the thorns... pulled up 2 healthy performing bushes today because I got tired of their enormous tightly packed thorns, their flowers did not outweigh their thorns.... Oh well these 2 both make beautiful flowers, if they are half as good as the pictures posted here. Thanks sultry.

Just as a curiosity sultry how big is your arch? I feel our our plant growth will be similar and we seem to have the same vision for our arches. I bow to your experience with these roses so your use of 4 instead of 2 has perked my interest. Thanks BR

Screwed the pooch?

Austin, It is about 8ft tall at the center and 4.5 ft wide..not sure how deep.

Im sure its probably too small but I dont care. I figure I can always add another one benind it if I need it to be deeper, or add another one beside it lol..they will probably rust anyways because nothing metal lasts long in FL.

So sorry kitasei, that really did sound wrong... In explanation... if not defense, this was a phrase we all said in growing up when we screwed up or made a big mistake; it was not considered a form of cursing. In other words it was said at home, school etc -slang talk but not crude. Have no idea where the saying came from and since you pointed it out it seems silly at best and certainly offensive if taken literally. My apologies. Yep sure sounds wrong to me now...

Sharing in case you have a need: I have 3 of these from Hayneedle/ going down a path. They are well built, very sturdy and very strong. They anchor in ground well and do not have any sway even in the high winds that Dallas often experiences. The solar lights on top are nice not tacky and work well, coming on after dark.. My backyard shines like a football field so the solar controls get confused but they would be nice if you needed a little light in a darker location. I think they run about $200. 20" wide, 60"L, 92"H. They are better than others I have tried over the years which is why I am sharing.

Austin that is a beautiful arch. I think it would be sturdy enough for just about anything, rose wise. Do you have them all planted already? I would love to see them when they are.

Austinkisses, that looks gorgeous. Thank you for sharing. I love them but haven't tried to put them in myself. Would you mind sharing (in details if possible) how you anchor them to the ground? Thanks. Helen

if you blow up my picture or go to the website ( just google garden arch with solar lights) you will notice how the supporting sides are constructed. Additionally, it has a bar that goes across the 20" width that has holes for 4 stakes . They are long and do a good job of anchoring. The frame with those right angles actually gives the the structure its best support. I have 2 arches planted and the last one was just installed and is waiting for Quick and Crush. I had my handy man put them together. It is easy but 2 people better than one for the installation and placement. If I were younger and had a helper I would have done them myself. That pic is from the Hayneedle website. Once my roses/arches are worth viewing I will post pictures of mine.

Austin, that’s beautiful—and will be even prettier with the roses on it! Can’t wait to see that! :-)

Thank you Austin. Helen