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integrated column refrigerator

6 years ago

we have decided on Thermador appliances and are getting a 36 in column refrigerator. We are putting a separate free-standing freezer in our pantry. My dilemma is maintaining the integrated look since we are getting panel ready, in a 27in deep cabinet. the refrigerator will have a wing wall on the left side and a standard 24 inch depth cabinet on the right side. the Thermador refrigerator does require a minimum of 25 in in depth. It seems to defeat the purpose of having an integrated look when there's not any same depth cabinets on either side. thoughts?.

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  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Thermador columns ARE fully integrated. They use the “panel ready” terminology which is confusing given the fact that most people here do not associate panel ready with fully integrated. I’m confused about the 27” cabinet since you don’t require it for the fridge.

    angal thanked sherri1058
  • 6 years ago
    • Per the specifications, I would say that the refrigerator cabinet should be 24" deep.
    • If the refrigerator door is, say, 3/4" thick and the adjacent cabinet door is the same, the doors will line up.
    • I assume that the "wing wall" is on the opposite side of the refrigerator door hinge so the door can be opened the required 115 degrees.
    • Have you read the installation instructions? Holy moly!
    • $7300! Super holy moly!

    -- amateur

    angal thanked wdccruise
  • 6 years ago

    according to the specifications the cut-out depth is a minimum of 25 in. For a flush installation we need to add the depth of the door. The hinges are designed for a flush mount installation so the wing wall at cabinet depth will not be a concern, they actually pivot inward . we have opted for a 27 inch deep cabinet as this is the next standard Appliance depth cabinets. the adjacent counter is flanked on the other side with dual oven cabinets that are 27 in deep. those will house 4 appliances. A built-in coffee maker over the large convection steam oven, and next to those the radiant convection oven with a side swing door above the drawer microwave. this depth actually covers the overhang of the countertop so it doesn't stick out Beyond the cabinets. I am thinking of not adding the refrigerator handle since this refrigerator has a unique soft close door that you can bump to open. I read about this option and it's installation instructions. wondering if anyone on this site has ever installed this refrigerator in that manner.

  • 6 years ago

    "according to the specifications the cut-out depth is a minimum of 25 in. For a flush installation we need to add the depth of the door."

    See page 2, item C

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    6 years ago

    Thermador columns are pretty slick.

    angal thanked Jeffrey R. Grenz, General Contractor
  • 6 years ago

    It seems to defeat the purpose of having an integrated look when there's not any same depth cabinets on either side. thoughts?


    25" is only 1" deeper than regular countertops. And it's about in line with the standard depth for any range, as those usually need to stick out a little bit. So, none of that is really all that unexpected. Big appliances and tall pantry cabinets frequently stick out just a little bit. That actually helps with breaking up long walls and can look really organic. I am very happy that our architect insisted on that detail.


    On the other hand, if you already are customizing your cabinets, may I suggest that you also pull your lower cabinets forward a little bit. The extra countertop surface is really nice to have. And that would allow you to shrink the difference in depth between your appliance and your cabinets -- assuming that's your preference.


    As for the looks of the integrated fridge, I strongly suggest you try to look at it in a showroom. We decided on SubZero instead of Thermador. So, our experience is slightly different. SubZero makes a fully integrated model that literally looks like one enormous cabinet. There is no visual clue that this bulky cabinet is hiding an appliance. We looked at it in the showroom, and didn't really like it. It felt overwhelming and didn't really fit our space. SubZero also has a model that they call built-in, but it actually has doors that extend past the front of the cabinets, unless of course you push it back deeper into the cabinet. With extra deep cabinets (such as what you are proposing), this is actually possible. This gives you options.


    At that point, the built-in fridge looks comparable to an integrated model, but it has bigger gaps around the side. I actually prefer this look. It's a subtle distinction and firmly falls into the category of first-world-problems. But it gives you just enough visual cues that there is a refrigerator in this kitchen rather than a non-sensically large mystery cabinet. And even though you can tell it's a fridge, it looks very understated and hidden because of the flush-mounted panel.


    Check with a showroom, if they can demonstrate the two different visual effects to you and then see if that is something you could do with your Thermador. It sounds as if both options might be possible, and you just need to make up your mind.

    angal thanked M