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I‘ve been able to find everything I want for my collection with relative ease, except for one tree.


Does anyone know where I might be able to source a Pseudolarix amabilis?

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  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Thank you My3dogs for the link.


    I should have qualified my statement with, a small size specimen. I’d guess shipping on a 15 gallon specimen wouldn‘t be a small number. Perhaps I’m wrong.

  • 6 years ago

    You could probably go there and haul it yourself for what shipping would cost. Just saying... :o)

  • 6 years ago

    That’s the truth Bill!


    With all of the seed stock I’m seeing online, and reading how well it does in the area in my favorite conifer book: Landscaping With Conifers and Gingko in the Southeast by Cox and Ruter; you’d think it would be readily available.


    Looks like I’ll be trying my hand with seeds.

  • 6 years ago

    I have actually been to this nursery as it’s not too far from me. And they have a large selection, much of it unusual. I bought three good sized trees from them, back around 2016. At the time I wasn’t savvy enough to ask them to show me the root balls (I would do that anywhere I went, today.) All three trees had badly circled roots. I had to do major hacking away to correct it. Two of them are now thriving and I’m very pleased (Metasequoia glyptostroboides and Gymnocladus dioicus.). The third tree, Nyssa sylvatica didn’t survive long after the hacking, but I’ve read they are hard to transplant at the best of times.

    Bottom line - although I like the place, I’m not sure I’d buy without seeing the root balls. YMMV.

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Rootbound woody stock is ubiquitous on the market, isn't routinely found at one place here but not another over there, and so on. Unless a grower is somehow located that happens to actually be keeping their stock free of serious root deformities - and will also sell to an end consumer - the only thing the plant buying public can do is buy small specimens that cannot be seen to have problems at time of purchase. Small enough that when it is discovered at planting time that they do in fact have misdirected roots, as can be pretty much counted on that it is still possible to correct them. Unless there is a tight, rutabaga or turnip like root knot right at the base of the stem - not a rare occurrence, unfortunately - in which case the plant is effectively in a hopeless condition.

    Says he who had foundation shrubs laid on the ground by snow, which when dug up turned out to have these round root knots. Which they pivoted over on, about 25 years after planting.

    As it happens I also had a golden larch here for a time, which made pretty good progress. But I eventually took it out because it had roots going around in circles, close to the trunk. Roots which I did not address at planting time.

  • 6 years ago

    Thats the absolute truth Embo.


    Root surgeries seem to be a necessary step in most, if not all nursery stock. Girdling roots are definitely easier to tend to with sub 5g stock.


    Throw in the almost certain occurrence of being potted up, overly deep, several times. Digging out root flares seems to be a ubiquitous step as well.

  • 6 years ago

    Don't know anything about them. You have to inquire about sizes.

    Rich's Foxwillow Nursery

    Stephen Gibson (NC 7B) thanked User
  • 6 years ago

    i though richs closed.. or was in the process of such.. but do try them .. maybe they are still winding down??????


    i got mine.. about 18 years ago.. from gee tree farm ... in stockbridge M

    I ... im sure you can find a link ..


    ken

    Stephen Gibson (NC 7B) thanked ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
  • 6 years ago

    Ken, is yours still alive and well?

  • 6 years ago

    Yup, retired just last Fall, unless he still sells some on the side.

    http://www.richsfoxwillowpines.com/calendar/

  • 6 years ago

    i suppose so.. i havent been out there in a couple years ...


    it has an intense yellow fall coloring ...


    ken


    im sure i started with a small plant ... only pic i can find from 2008 ...



  • 6 years ago

    apparently.. if you spell pseudo wrong while labeling pix.. they dont show up in an alpha search.. go figure on that ...


    2006






    boy that old camera stunk ... lol ...

  • 6 years ago

    This question has come up before, and I'm stumped why it is not more readily available. Where some true larch struggle in heat and humidity, this one actually prefers it.

    I bought one 10-15 years ago (the older I get the wider the age range for such estimates gets) that was grown by Monrovia. Their website shows it is not available, which is not the question you asked.

    My current Golden Larch was obtained at a small, specialty nursery, which I think would be your best bet. If you know of such nurseries in your region, which I'm guessing you do, I'd start asking them about obtaining this tree. Good luck!

  • 6 years ago

    I am currently trying to grow this from seed. In fact, I just finished the 60 day cold stratification period. If I am successful germinating a few, I will be happy to send you one.

    Stephen Gibson (NC 7B) thanked DeanW45
  • 6 years ago

    Last year was largest 'mast year' for Pseudolarix amabilis since I've been keeping watch!,,,Not a single bloom this spring.

    Johnny


  • 6 years ago

    current photo under one of my two(2) Pseudolarix in front yard!

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Johnny! That’s incredible man. Did they meet a weed eater? What would I have to do to get a few of those if you have any wayward remains?

    Dean, I’d be curious to hear about/see pics of your progress as you go through it.

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    There's probably at least a 1000 cotyledon size plants mixed in with the grass but I have 3-4 12" specimens under tree currently! I think waiting until. the Fall would be much better time for transplanting. I have more seedling at another location which may be 24" tall or larger but moving them now is not a good time!. If you can wait for needles to drop in October you would be ahead of the game!

    Johnny

  • 6 years ago

    I’m definitely about the fall planting/transplanting life. Just know I’d happily buy a groves worth of little guys off your hands!

  • 6 years ago

    Here's one(1) of the Pseudolarix at my other planting taken last October.

    Johnny


  • 6 years ago

    Stephen-

    I have 4 tiny seedlings. I’d be happy to give you one. There’s a huge P. Amabilis near me here in Richmond Va. About a month ago I visited it and found saplings popping up and managed to find 4 seeds with the radicals just starting to pop out. If you want to get a large collection of them i can tell you where they are if you feel like coming to VA To dig them up.

    Stephen Gibson (NC 7B) thanked Jacob Bisharat VA zone 7A/7B
  • 6 years ago

    Jacob I would happily take one off of your hands. Im definitely trying to put together a grove, and have room for more than a few. Pulling from various sources (people‘s kind offers of seedlings & my desire to grow a few from seed)..


    How small are we talking?

  • 6 years ago

    And thank you for the location reveal. If I drive the 4 hours to Richmond for some seedlings, Ill know the conifer addiction might be serious.

  • 6 years ago

    Pretty small. The 4 I have are only a few inches tall and probably not strong enough to be shipped yet.


    I‘m supposed to be in charlotte In June For a Wedding, if circumstances allow. I might be able to give you a couple then.


    Or if you want a bunch and are in the area I can tell you where they are.


    If you’re on Facebook look me up and we can use messenger and work out details.

  • 6 years ago

    Hey Stephen


    The wedding got moved to this weekend cuz of covid. If you’re still interested I have two in one pot. They’re probably 10” tall and will need to be separated when the time is right. I’ll be driving on I85 to Charlotte on Friday. Are you still looking for some? Can you meet me near I85 Friday afternoon?


  • 5 years ago

    Pseudolarix...seedlings from 2019 seed crop. Photo taken today!



  • 5 years ago

    Very impressive! None of my seeds germinated this spring. I'm jealous.

  • 5 years ago

    Just seeing updates about this post. Holy Smokes! Jacob, I hate I missed you when you were down this way. If you have any of those left we should definitely talk!


    If not, it looks like Conifer50 has more than a few. I’m definitely curious seeing that sweep of seedlings... can this tree become invasive?

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Stephen , if you enable the message button on your page , jacob would be able to message you directly

    ron

    old post about that

    OH NO , THAT IS THE WRONG LINK

    Stephen Gibson (NC 7B) thanked plantkiller_il_5
  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    I think I found it

    messaging button

    ron

    Stephen if you click Jacob's name .. at his page , you will see the message button

  • 5 years ago

    I think I figured it out Ron, I sent a message. Thank you for the effort though.

  • 5 years ago

    Messages received and I responded.

  • 5 years ago

    McLean Nursery in Baltimore has seedlings for a very reasonable price but he doesn't mail order.

  • 5 years ago

    yah , but stephen, no message button shown at your page

    Stephen Gibson (NC 7B) thanked plantkiller_il_5
  • 5 years ago

    Stephen, I see what you did there! lol

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