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Does Hippolyte sucker?

6 years ago

I got Hippolyte as a bare root from Palatine last spring, and this spring, its blooming for the first time. I am just absolutely enchanted by the flowers! Though Helpmefind describes it as having some red, for me it is the purest, grape-like purple. I love the healthy foliage, its graceful habit, just everything about it! Two of my other gallicas, La Belle Sultane and Charles de Mills, sucker like crazy, and I was wondering if Hippolyte does too? I so hope so, because I'd love to have other specimens of this rose and its hard to find. This year I don't think Palatine offered it, and though Rogue lists it, its out of stock. Also, do grafted gallicas sucker? I think my LBS was a graft, but I honestly don't remember, since I have had it for ages. Thanks!

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  • 6 years ago

    I love mine too, Frances, from Claire. Mine is too new to know. No suckering yet, but I would welcome that too.



  • 6 years ago

    If yours is grafted Frances, you may have to root one to have it sucker from an own root plant.

  • 6 years ago
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    Frances, I don't grow Hippolyte, but only because I've never been able to find it in stock, lol. But I can address a couple of your questions. Most gallicas DO sucker, though some are much more aggressive about it than others (here's looking at you Charles de Mills). However (there's always a "but..."), grafted gallicas are much less likely to sucker. Grafting is the primary way that they are kept in check. If it's planted deeply, it MIGHT go own root, but there's no guarantee. So like Sheila says, I'd recommend starting a cutting or an air layer. That way you'd already have another, and that one would be much more likely to spread. You can never have too many of a favorite rose. It's a rule. Really.

  • 6 years ago

    Yes, though I'm not sure if mine has thrown any yet. And yes, some sucker more than others. John, you really should grow it! Do you want me to see if mine has a sucker for you?

  • 6 years ago

    Alana, it would be wonderful if you have one to spare. But please don't stress your plant if it's a young one. I've done without for years already. I can wait. Kinda. For a while. Patiently. Sorta. lol.

    By the way, how's your Glenn Dale doing?

    John

  • 6 years ago

    Lol. I went and looked and it does have some small ones, I will wait, and then cut them away from the mom, leave in the ground another month or two, and it should be ready to send early fall or late summer! :)


    I absolutely love my Glenn Dale and it is doing awesome!! BTW incase I forgot to tell you, my fog brain, can't recall if I told you or not..anywho, the blooms did survive and I got to see their beauty upon opening the box and very gently unwrapping the canes! It did wonderful! It was very easy to take out, thank you so very much again!!

  • 6 years ago

    Frances, if you want your rose to sucker, bury the graft under and inch or two of soil, so the scion is in contact with the dirt, and then wait. Most once-blooming old roses of European origin (Gallicas, Centifolias, Damasks, Albas, Mosses) will eventually sucker under such conditions. Some take longer than others, some are more aggressive than others.

    Alana and Fig, I'd love to see photos of your 'Glenn Dale'. I have a rose that I believe is GD, though it came to me under a different name. Mine is a lovely rose.

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  • 6 years ago

    John probablyhas some, Melissa , if not I will take some pictures of it next time it blooms!

  • 6 years ago
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    Francs, congratulations on your new Hippolyte!


    I'm jumping in a bit late to your thread, and everyone already said it all regarding propagation and the spread of grafted roses. So, I'll just chime in and mention that when I've buried the graft, my Gallicas have always spread...eventually. Even when soil just piles up next to the graft, my Gallicas have spread, some faster and more vigorously than others.. I also wanted to reach across the continent and connect with a kindred spirit. Gallicas are my hands down favorite class of roses! Carol