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Repair or replace old toilets?

6 years ago
last modified: 6 years ago

My home was built in 1999 and has the original Mansfield toilets throughout. I have recently replaced all the toilet seats. Plus, one of the toilet's supply lines was leaking so I recently replaced it with a braided stainless steel one. However, now I'm noticing issues with the tank slowly leaking. There are no external leaks and all the connections are tight and secure. I don't know if it has been since replacing the supply line or just because I'm home all the time now so I hear the toilet refilling randomly throughout the day. When flushed, it fills the tank perfectly, but I will notice the tank is slowly getting lower if I come back to check on it. There is no leaking outside of the toilet, so I'm thinking it may be either the fill valve or flush valve. The internals look to have the original Mansfield flush valve, but the fill valve may have been replaced at some point as it looks different than the other toilets. If it was changed out, was most likely done on or slightly before 2014.





I'm looking for recommendations and advice. Should I go through the process of replacing parts until I fix the leak or is it better to just get a new toilet at this point? Thanks

Comments (11)

  • 6 years ago

    The first picture looks like a fluid master, a low cost, DIY replacement, can be noisy.

    Fluidmaster has different replacement kits...I recommend the “replace all” kit, vs individual kits for each component.

    Fluidmaster used to, may still does, advertise, “if there is a leak you will hear it” or something similar.

    I recommend against replacing the toilets, they maybe worthy of having parts replaced.

    FWIW, if you replace your toilets, you may have to use lower water use toilets, some of the low usage toilets do not clear the bowl, and or are noisy.

    Ivy Lou thanked User
  • 6 years ago

    It's probably the flush valve seal. That's the round black gasket at the bottom. Very easy to replace.

    Ivy Lou thanked catbuilder
  • 6 years ago

    Thanks everyone! I've been monitoring it more closely recently and now can confirm that the water in the bowl is also leaking/lowering slowly throughout the day. Unless it's normal to notice after flushing a toilet that the water level goes higher then before it was flushed?


    In the case of the tank and bowl slowly lowering and having to refill themselves, what part(s) should I be repairing/replacing?

  • 6 years ago

    If it’s the flapper letting water leak by that could be a simple fix. Turn off the water supply then flush to let as much water as possible out of the tank. Then take a cloth and wipe the flapper valve and the gasket it sits on. Then take a dab of Vaseline and smear it on the gasket. That’s worked for me several times

    Ivy Lou thanked MiMi
  • 6 years ago

    In the olden days, there were tablets to determine if the flapper was leaking.


    Re what to repair/replace...Replace everything.

    Ivy Lou thanked User
  • 6 years ago

    You can put a few drops of food coloring in the tank and see if it ends up in the bowl...

  • 6 years ago

    Should I go through the process of replacing parts until I fix the leak or is it better to just get a new toilet at this point?


    You can either spend a few dollars for parts & learn how to repair a toilet now.


    Or you can spend a lot of dollars for new toilets and learn how to repair them a few years from now.

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    There's no flapper (does anybody see a flapper there? No, there is not a flapper). I repeat, it's the flush valve seal. The black gasket at the bottom of the tube. It costs a couple of dollars and takes about 30 seconds to replace.

    Replacing the toilet because of this is akin to having an electrician rewire your house because a light bulb burned out.

    Ivy Lou thanked catbuilder
  • 6 years ago

    Thanks for the info and advice! Yes, I agree that replacing something you can easily and affordably repair is silly. I just wasn't sure if this was one of those times where, because of the age of the toilets, that it might be better to upgrade to a new brand/model, like a Toto toilet or something nicer. I definitely am the type who prefers to repair vs replacing and especially with something mundane/utilitarian like a toilet.

  • 6 years ago

    I purchased a Mansfield flush valve seal for $4 and installed that today. I think it was a replacement that was well overdue as when pulling off the old seal, it immediately started to crumble and melt in my hands. So far, everything seems to be working great with the new seal and I am not noticing any leaking. Thanks for the help!