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6 years ago

I would like to remove the small peninsula and add an island in the area that is also labeled kitchen. This area is open to the u shaped kitchen and on the other side to the dining room. Will it be weird to have an island separate from the kitchen. I think the builder meant that space for a small table but I don’t see the need to have a table right next to another table in the dining area. Included is the layout as well as what it would look like with an island. We really don’t want the peninsula which closes off the kitchen. we’ve been racking our brain thinking of options and this is what we came up with. Thoughts on how it looks or alternate ideas are welcomed.

Comments (23)

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    YOu don't have room for ANY island. You don't have room for a peninsula either. You have what will be most effective as a u shaped kitchen and a small dining table. If you want to sit at counter height, prefer stools to a dining chair height? Buy a counter height dining table, stools with backs. Don't reinvent wheels or make inches where they do NOT exist.

  • 6 years ago

    The room where we are thinking of placing the island is 12.5 wide the measurements in the plan are not accurate. The 9.5 are the dimensions of the kitchen area where the cabinets are. If I include an island I still have almost 5 feet on one side and 3 on the other if I don’t center it.

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    That’s not an island. It’s a tall table.when a regular table would be far more comfortable. It’s too far outside the kitchen to work as any type of workspace. That’s not how workflow happens. That’s how you spend 10K for something that works worse and is more uncomfortable than a $500 used Ethan Allen. Leave well enough alone.

  • PRO
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Perhaps move the slider. Either way? Not the space that allows for any island, nor peninsula.




  • PRO
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Well for heaven sake. Don't post two different rooms ! Nobody will ever understand, and USE wall to wall dimension. For anything you post.

  • 6 years ago

    I don't see the different room, did I miss something? Of the two choices in the poll, they are different ways of showing the same room.

  • 6 years ago

    The first question is, how do you want the kitchen to work for you? Then, father down, how will an island fit into your hopes?

  • 6 years ago

    The island would add storage and informal seating without being just a table. In our current home we have an island that is constantly used for entertainment and not necessarily for prepping since most of that I do next to the sink. My hope is to have a similar area in the kitchen of the new house.

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Where would you sit down at a table and gather as a family? You simply can’t have only an tall table with no one facing each other for eating. You might as well eat in your plastic bubble cocoons with your phones in your faces.

  • 6 years ago

    That area is open to a dining room, it’s all open layout. I use the dining area all the time for diner. The island is just for quick breakfast, snacks, gathering around for drinks and apps when friends come over.

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    Can you post some pictures of how it is now and a single floor plan? It could be that I am tired but I can't seem to figure out what the first plan with the table is or where it is supposed to be in the space. Thanks

  • 6 years ago

    Here is the floor plan. I don’t own the house yet but I am planning how I can use the empty space so that I can order cabinets if I have to. There is nothing (no cabinets, tables) after the small peninsula shown in the plan. They just have it as a big empty room which is weird. They do have a big dining table in the dining room area. The area with the cabinets is very well laid out other than the tiny peninsula with no storage cutting off the access to the kitchen.

  • 6 years ago

    Floor plan

  • 6 years ago

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  • 6 years ago

    You don't have room for an island, but you can remove the peninsula and extend the countertop along the wall next to your stairs. That gives you extra countertop and storage space on the bottom if the stairs are open, or you can use full wall storage if the stairs are closed. Or extend the countertop along the wall to use for stools.

  • 6 years ago

    If that were my space? I’d move the kitchen into that empty space and make the current kitchen into a giant pantry to hold all of the hoarded TP supplies, and the larger amount of staples that many are keeping in hand these days.

  • PRO
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    No need for mathing tails. But move the slicer.? You needn't fill every inch of wall. An island needs not less that thirteen feet width, or SQUISH



  • PRO
    6 years ago

    Jan is right--no island or peninsula. The layout you show with the peninsula looks to be totally unusable--it doesn't look like there is more than 18" between the peninsula and the perimeter cabinets.

    A u-shaped kitchen is your best bet. Then think about how you can use that empty space between the work area and the dining area. You could add cabinets and a second sink and/or small refrigerator to make a beverage bar for coffee and other drinks. You could add two chairs and a small table in between for a "keeping room" effect. You could build a floor-to-ceiling pantry. You could build a desk for the children to do homework. Lots of possibilities, but think about your needs first.

  • 6 years ago

    You might find it easier to circulate if the kitchen is a true galley, that is move the range to the fridge wall, extend that work space towards the dining. If the end wall with nothing really bothers you, you could have shallow lowers.

    Another idea that might let people hand in the kitchen a bit would be an L. Move the sink/DW to the the wall, everything else on the right. Now you have room for a small counter height table and a couple of stools on the left wall. If it has drop sides, you can raiser them when you need extra work space.

  • 6 years ago

    Whether or not you remove the peninsula, you could build in storage and a desk to use the area along the stair wall for more of a mud room/office space. Or use a portion for counter stools that swivel so they can use the countertop surface or look out.

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  • PRO
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    I made some dimensional assumptions - the kitchen area is about 9"5 across and about 12 ft long, the middle empty area is about 11 across because of the angled wall and is about 11 ft long and then you reach the dining area 14 ft across and 10 ft long...

    I think you could do something like this:





    Thats a 7 ft x 3ft piece of countertop.. you may be able to put a beverage station on that piece of angled wall. Or you could even do a peninsula type of piece off the wall something like this:



    Without the pantry on the right...

    Good luck!

  • 6 years ago

    Thank you Debbi your dimension assumptions are exactly right. I gain 2 feet after the angled wall. Your drawings with the peninsula is almost exactly what I drew your look much better. I have been asking around including a kitchen designer who thinks it might be ackward just to have an island just by itself and not even aligned with the kitchen. I still like the idea just like you pictured it. Have you ever seen this kind of setup before Thank you this is really helpful. Have a lot to think about and have to decide very quickly.

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    I think if you wanted to have the island kind of by itself it needs to be a different color and you need to do some serious decorating - art on the walls, maybe some narrow furniture.

    I think you really need to not rush this - anytime you rush you make mistakes.

    What condition is the kitchen in now? the floors? the appliances?? I happen to like the other ideas that were thrown out there better... pull the kitchen down into that space more - rework the appliance locations - or the one of pulling the kitchen out of that corner and incorporating the large pantry.

    There are tons of options but you must slow down , assess your situation and get with a skilled designer...

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