Consider New Dawn. Hard to beat.

Sheila: lovely big bloom. I have never heard of this rose. Is it fragrant or how is the thorn? I don't trust the description since they have exaggerated.

How about Eden?

I'll check later on fragrance. On the way to the dentist. Average thorns I think. Foliage and flowers are gorgeous. I was surprised I had not seen it more, but it would be a warm climate rose which many books don't cover.

It is a lovely rose, Mine died over-wintering it in a pot this year, but I love it when I had it. Is there a bush form? I wouldn't want someone to order the wrong one although I'd grow both if I could. I am going to suggest Nahema. I grow many light-coloured climbers, but wouldn't consider any of them no-thornk, even MAC. There is another white you could grow in your zone, but the name is eluding me. Hopefully, others will pipe in. While not a large flower or light pink, I've been very impressed with Cl. Pinkie this Spring.

Just want to ask what type of fence do you have? How often do you paint your fence? If you plant a big fence eater like MAC, it would be a paint to cut it down for maintenance.

In your area, I would think about any of the climbing Noisettes, or maybe Cl. Old Blush.

'Renae' would be ideal, and it is thornless too. It was born in a hot climate and in the heat it's at its best.

Paul:I have heard many raves about Renae but someone had mentioned a drawback (BS prone?). But I will look into Renae as well.

Summerrythm: We plan to replace the wood fence with iron fence in the fall. So, I would like to research and order in time or wait until the nursery has their 2021 rose list in February.

Jerijen: I will look into old blush and noisette.

Tina -- I suspect that Antique Rose Emporium still has Cl. Old Blush, and I know they carry a good selection of the different Noisettes. See:

https://antiqueroseemporium.com/

See Cl. Old Blush at:

https://antiqueroseemporium.com/products/old-blush-climber

See

Crepuscule at:

https://antiqueroseemporium.com/products/crepuscule

See Mme. Alfred Carriere at:

https://antiqueroseemporium.com/search?q=madame%20alfred%20carriere

Wonderful fragrance for Elie Beauvilian.It is a Noisette/Tea.

Anyone know anything about white eden? I am also considering Eden but no fragrance? Someone also recommended Nahema

Eden has no fragrance, at least to my nose. It has thorns.

I would choose a Eden too But I don’t know how it would grow in your zone. Am I the only one who thinks new dawn is overrated. I have always wanted it but now that I have grown it a few years, I am disappointed how easily the petals dropped. Worst than my DA heritage.

Tina, iron fence would need maintenance from time to time. So find a climber that has more flexible canes,. When it’s the time to paint the fence you could just flip the climber off the fence. And make sure to have some distance between rose and fence, you’d need room between them for maintenance.

New Dawn doesn’t have flexible canes.

Alright, so flexible canes with few thorns, some fragrance and not dainty small blooms.. Evelyn, MAC, Renae, Pearly Gate... Colette canes?

If you have to deal with black spot, get a black spot resistant climber. Any of the Kordes, ADR winning climbers will perform magnificently, and require no fungicide spraying.

I highly recommend Quick Silver, whose blooms have it all, especially heat resistance both in colors not fading and petals not wilting. Its repeat cycles are continuous. Most older climbers, including New Dawn give a spectacular spring show, but fizzle out thereafter. Quick Silver also grows much larger than the press Kordes provides about its size in their marketing statement. Your 6' fence will present no challenges to Quick Silver.

Take advantage of the tremendous progress that has been made in present day rose breeding and get a new rose variety. They present far fewer care issues as compared to roses introduced just a couple decades ago.

Moses

Moses, you have made me consider to use the new climber I got this Spring for the fence. Lavender crush (she has long flexible canes with thorns and fragrant. Not spectacular bloomer yet.. also Kordes Florentina (red) but not fragrant to me. Hardly any blooms for a climber. Perhaps it will do better next season. I may consider them and perhaps a lighter color such as Kordes Honeymoon.. Anyone wants to chime on Honeymoon climber, Kiss me Kate or similar?

I live in Dallas - Eden has no or few blooms after spring. Ditto on New Dawn and the petals shatter in our heat even in spring. (my experience) Climate matters. ARE will probably recommend older varieties because that is where they cut their teeth years ago... or that is what I found whenever I ask their opinion. They recommended Climbing Pinkie, said it was never without blooms but I found only had very sportic blooms after spring here in Dallas and none when I grew in Houston. In fact could not find anyone in our area with summer bloom success. Key to your wish list is DALLAS friendly. Check out comments by BenT he grows many and lives in Plano. He posted beautiful pictures of Eden but said it was a spring bloomer I believe he also said that Lavender Crush had stiff canes as they age. I have many that I use as climbers. I selected large growing Austins because they are actually shrubs and bloom from the ground up year round. They are easily trained to climb. Not all are good choices but many are. I am posting Abe Darby which I have posted here before but it should give you an idea. Speaking in general terms for Texas... "if you don' t want ANY blackspot and don't want to spray then don't plant roses". I have never found a blackspot free rose for Dallas, Houston, or Austin maybe other Texans have. You have probably missed your window for now for the best rose choices but fall is coming.

Abe Darby in Dallas could go to side as easy as up in fact easier.

Golden Celebration - I do not recommend shatters in heat and blooms white out, blooms all year but only really pretty in spring

Abe in Houston- good example of blooms to ground. He got a lot of shade this is a summer bloom cycle

Beautiful roses austinkisses! Have a question for you, you grow climbers in front your garage, don’t you use garage for cars? :-)

Olivia blooms a lot so I have been trying to train her to climb she is balking a bit, she is not a natural like some other Austins. Those that throw those long octopus arms everyone complains about are perfect. I place them horizontally like you do when pegging and they break and go vertical and then horizontal again... lot of flowers, the more petals usually the better summer flowers. All of the pictured do wonderfully in our heat.

Evelyn always in bloom, always pretty. Using large shrubs may take more bushes but then if you get RRD you dont lose them all.

Falstaff - he was fair/ trying Don Juan now but like many climbers it blooms mainly at top.

please read from my first post up in order for this to make sense... you know houzz they have their own order. Hope this helps, I remember when I was searching for the same as you. :)

It is hot in SE Pennsylvania right now, and my Colette (own root, planted last year) seems quite unhappy with the heat. I would hesitate to plant it in Texas.

Hey Summer my garage was grandfathered in and if we rebuilt I would have had to push it closer to my house eating up garden space. I have an ally in back from where you enter. I took out the driveway that went to front of house when we bought and added on but left the very convenient second garage door. The arch is my attempt at making it look a bit better.

I am not a pro in your hot zone, but just want to mention one rose that has beautiful long lasting blooms-Pretty in Pink Eden, it repeats much more than Eden. The color is hot pink, people could see the blooms from far away. It’s not a shy rose for sure.

austinkisses, you have dressed it up like a party house. It’s a prefect place for a tea party! :-)

Check out this (from a garage to a party house):

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/248331366928410637/

Thanks you guys!

Austinkisses: I also just got Olivia and Lady of Shallot this season.. may try them as climber on side of fence or arch like yours! Both looks healthy so far in our heat. I did not have to spray on them .. but Golden Celebration is blackspot prone. Both you and BenT rate Evelyn as great here in Dallas. Your Abe Darby is gorgeous! Thanks for narrowing down so that I may eliminate New Dawn and Climbing Pinkie. A nursery carries Pearly Gates and Cotilde Soupert but just don't know how they do in our area.

Marcie: Thanks for Colette insight. I need something that blooms beyond spring and in heat.. preferably with big double blooms

Summer: Prettypink Eden look great! is it fragrant..

Austin,

Those were some really great posts, and you are so talented with the climbing Austins!

Funny how we see several of them the same way...Evelyn is ideal for Dallas, big, long lasting, producing excellent size and petal count and holding in heat. Abe is very good , not as long lasting as Evelyn, but good enough, repeats fast and blooms very heavy. I was disappointed when I started a thread long lasting Austins and many people suggested Golden Celebration, for me it simply doesn’t last long enough...though I agree many Austins are even more fleeting than GC. I’ve kept my GC but I have Iris in front and a Tie-Dye clematis intertwined to help keep interest

The iris FLorentine Silk starts before GC

Clematis Tie Dye catches the tail end

And continues the show after GC is done.

Your Olivia looks great too, I’ve never seen a climbing one! Where did you get that nice trellis for it?

Thanks BenT, I just did a garden rose support post about them. I spent some time over the years searching for supports and I thought someone may benefit from my experiences. Your suggestions on obelisks helped and I listed it. Please look for a posted question I have for you on clematis. Picking your brain again. :)

Tina you will enjoy Lady for her beautiful color but beware her petals shatter a little fast and they do not have the mass of petals in our heat. She is lovely in spring and fall and if we get some cooler temps also she is a fast repeat. I have her growing with Abe for some contrast and she does not compare with him for bloom longevity in heat. Abe snubs his nose at heat. if you place her in full sun I do not think your blooms will last the day. Mine is in morning shade. Not trying to be discouraging but hated to see you put up a whole fence line just to decorate the concrete or grass below her.

Well Tina the Lady may have made a liar out of me. She had a dozen or so blooms yesterday and they still are holding petals nicey today- getting a little crisp on edges though. Evelyn my best Austin climber in heat for bloom staying power

Austin: Lady is Lady Banks? I may need you to teach me how to train Olivia into a climber since I already have her. Olivia and LOS is available as a climber so it would be possible to do. Do you have link for the climbing support thread

BenT: Golden Celebration looks great. where did you get the iris? I was thinking of getting some iris and stargazer lily on Brecks or catalog unless you have a local source

Got Quicksilver at Lowes. She has blooms and several flexible canes. also decent size bloom for a climber. I do not detect a scent but soft light purple. Gonna plant her near lavender crush since fragrant (lemongrassy) climber

Dear Tina Dallas - no Lady is Lady of Shalott. I had said some negative comments about her that needed revising. Lady Banks only spring bloomer.

More.... sorry to bombard you with my opinions. I research everything before I make selections , guess I have moved or pitched a few too many roses in my day. I found that info from knowledgeable gardeners in your hometown is absolutely the best guess for future success. This is why I follow BenT and keep; asking for his opinion.

So we go more from my experience....

I also planted Quicksilver and Lav Crush this year. I think they will be great strong climbers for both of us and lovely on a fence for constant bloom. BenT may have better input he has grown them longer maybe he will chime in. My Quicksilver was a bareroot planted in Feb. It is almost 7' tall today. It has buds today shown below and this is the second group. I clipped the first to allow root growth before heat hit. Lav Crush came from Lowes (it is my 3rd try this year) and is very strong growing. It has only been in ground 2 weeks after no success with own roots from Regan.

You mentioned you were considering Lady of Shalott. Here is my experience after several years growing. Many of her canes are flexible not strong like Quick or Crush. They do toughen up as they age but it takes a while for mine.

This was taken at 1:30 today in our heat. It opened this morning.

This is a bloom that opened yesterday afternoon, taken at 1:30 today

Also taken at 1:30. Center flower will look this way by late afternoon today or late tomorrow morning. By the end of day this bloom will be ugly brownish but the petals will not drop cleanly.

What I have discovered is that L of S will put out lots of flowers to compensate for lack of staying power but only if you flood her with water. The Lady seems to be a heavy drinker. Mine looks especially nice from a distance because color shows up. If you do not have the time to clip dead flowers she starts to look a bit trashy with all those brown ones hanging about. Wonder how the Quicks and Lav Crush would look on your fence mixed with a couple the Shalotts for contrast. Not the soft pink you were wanting however.

I have been spraying for blackspots on most of the roses.. I found that Olivia and Scentuous has not had major problems. I got clilmbing Quicksilver in its original nursery container and will use it on the brick wall on south face (back of house). This side gets a lot of sun. So, I will need to relocate the other climbers in side of corner that gets part sun since not blooming (Kordes Florentina, Lavender crush).

I will need to move a few of the roses in front yard (10 DA) since may be overcrowding and getting blackspot. I have Olivia, Munstead Wood, Tranquility, Carding Mill, Bocsobel, Young Lycida, Golden Celebration.. plus Queen Elizabeth all planted this March near each other. Any ideas on which to move out and perhaps plant in containers and train onto an obelisk. I have a limited space in the back of house (south facing). I guess I overplanted and newbie mistakes.

I have overextended myself and gotten too much roses.

I also order white eden on etsy that should be coming (small 3 inch pot).... yikes!