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Escutcheon under bathroom sink

5 years ago
last modified: 5 years ago

My plumber left our bathroom sink installation looking like this under...



I obviously wanted the flange or escutcheon (is that what this is called?) to go flush against the wall like this



He mentioned that he will look for a longer flange, but it's going slow. Now I wonder if there is such a thing as a longer flange? I think we need 3" and what he has there now is the standard 1.5". I have been googling but maybe I'm googling the wrong thing?



Or what are his options, in this case, to make it look right?

Any suggestions would be more than helpful!

Comments (27)

  • 5 years ago

    You're right about it being wrong -- the pipe shouldn't show like that -- and it does look bad. Not sure there is actually a part for the problem -- I tried to google it and got nothing worthwhile.


    Not a pro but will make one suggestion: A length of stainless steel or aluminum or chrome pipe -- something to match the escutcheon you now have -- around the exposed pipe to hide it could help the look IF the escutcheon you have will fit over one naked end of the pipe and something else on the other end gives it a finished look there.


    That does look bad as is and your plumber should be required to fix it.



  • 5 years ago

    This "wall boot" came up in my search but, frankly, I don't care for the look of it.


    https://www.csidesigns.com/products/piping-accessories/pipetite

  • 5 years ago

    Yeah, it's kind of the same things that come up for me but they are never deeper than 1.5 inches.


    Maybe something like this on the other side that meets it?


    https://www.ebarnett.com/Sku/2015076/proplus-price-pfister-escutcheon-in-chrome-076335150765-2015076#specifications-link


    I gave him full specs of the sink before and they are a well-renowned business out here so I assume that he "has to fix this".. leaving it like this isn't an option.


    I feel that it's always good to be prepared when discussing with professionals. Is this a mishap on his side or is this just an easy fix with ordering something in that will look good?



  • 5 years ago

    Not a plumber but I'm guessing the rough in plumber (or plumber's helper) used too long a pipe and extended the pipe too far into the room ... likely unaware that the sink would be a wall hung one with the pipe exposed.

  • 5 years ago

    He was certainly not unaware, but I wonder if one of his boys were and he didn't supervise this closely enough. Can maybe be unmounted and cut to fit shorter?

  • 5 years ago

    If you don't get any other more elegant solutions, mask off the area and spray paint the black plastic an off white. Or even regular paint with a brush. And it gets no wear so the paint will never flake off.

    No-one will ever look twice at it unless they're lying on the bathroom floor which we hope is a rare event.

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Metallic silver paint. Cool sink.

  • 5 years ago

    Maybe metallic but I feel that will be a bad look too with paint. The sink is exposed under so you will definitely see it walking straight into the bathroom.


    It simply doesn't look as it was supposed to look. He had specs and pictures.


    Google Kohler Brockway Sink and all installations are made flush to the wall and they look fantastic.

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    Who looks under there anyway?

  • 5 years ago

    @Joseph Corlett, LLC Then why even put a flange there?

  • 5 years ago

    Looks like the plumber roughed-in a larger pipe than necessary and reduced its size outside of the wall under your sink. Poor planning.

  • 5 years ago

    @formulaross20 Wouldn't this be a case of removing the piping and cut the black PVC pipe shorter to the correct length and assemble it back with the correct length of chrome pipe?

  • 5 years ago

    Even if you could get a longer escutcheon, it looks like you probably wouldn't be able to put the assembly back together if you used it. It has to slide onto the elbow first, and it looks like you wouldn't be able to reach in and tighten that nut since the escutcheon would not be able to slide down around the bend. It looks like it also wouldn't cover up the hack job of tile cutting anyway.

  • 5 years ago

    I could live with the hack job, even though the tile person left a perfect circle around the pipe and not like this..


    But I really want the flange to be flush to the wall and not that ugly unfinished PVC pipe sticking out like that.


    The parts obviously need to be taken apart and reassembled and siliconed back together


    He had specs, pictures of how it was supposed to look, and tile work was done correctly.

  • 5 years ago

    I'm guessing you changed this from a regular cabinet? If so, he worked with what was already there. He had to use a reducer whereas the other example probably did not. There may not have been room behind the wall to change the piping without really tearing things up down the line.

  • 5 years ago

    Ah, that is a bummer! You could get another bell cover like you have, cut off the top just to where it starts to curve and fit it under the other one.

    strugglebrother thanked kayozzy
  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    I think I'm fishing for if this was an easy fix or if he actually didn't follow the instructions. If so I can address that to him instead of being told that, well this is how we usually do it etc..

    It seems like he messed up even though I tried to be super detailed in advance. If so I have to figure out some kind of solution as you suggest, yes.

    It's funny that my unlicensed people have caught on to details much much better than all the licensed contractors I hired for this remodel. You certainly not always get what you pay for.

    I also have more plumbing work in the future, and I feel like I'm gonna hire someone else for that, even if they are further away.

  • strugglebrother thanked Sammy
  • PRO
    5 years ago

    What is on the other side of the sink wall? Can you easily access the plumbing by opening the other side and reconfiguring the pipe fitting?

  • PRO
    5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    you could prob paint that exposed portion white to match the tile until you come up w/a better solution.

    or maybe put on one of those 'boot' things


    or find a thicker piece of metal to bridge the gap



  • 5 years ago

    Pros have pipe cutting tools that, if properly used, will create a straight smooth edge so definitely would not try to "handyman" the fix for this.


    The one exception to your trying to do it yourself might be if you are aware of a plumbing wholesale store near you and you can take a picture and measurements to that store to see if there is some "fix" ready made.


    If there is such a place near you, having a conversation about options -- whether or not you buy part(s) there-- could be worthwhile so you might be better informed about the options/issues the plumber might bring up when you meet. To find such dealer, you might google brands of products.


    A longer replacement might even be available but an fix that means adding adding any other part(s) will be a fix that would need to be connected, secured and finished at both ends to be practical.


    Good luck ... and do post after pics.

  • 5 years ago

    I think the problem is that those boot things etc don't have enough wide opening to fit the middle part of this installation.


    The opening seems to be 1.5 inches but then the fittings after are 2 inches, then the final part is 3 inches (which usually is covered by the plate).


    The other side of the wall is the kitchen which is now finished and all cabinets are up.


    On the plumbing forum, there was a lot of advice (but hard for me to understand) but one person said this


    "He used the WRONG fittings at the wall so they project out too far. Have him come back and redo it properly. He is not a very competent plumber if he doesn't know which fittings he needs."


    Which to me seems like he used what he had in his truck instead of what would work for this particular job. I will send the picture to a plumbing supply house if this stalls to nothing and I'm sure I can order in right fittings and have them redo it for me.

  • 5 years ago

    Hi there,


    Just wanted to share how we fixed this problem. Our plumber had the idea of using another pipe which he cut and was able to stack after the escutcheon.


    I'm very happy with how we solved this, it's not perfect but it very well blends in and your eye doesn't catch that big black sewer pipe that was there before.





  • 4 years ago

    Hi, I'm renovating my half bathroom in a similar style and have this exact same issue. Where did you find this pipe to stack after the escutcheon? Did it come chrome plated or is it just a metal pipe spray painted silver?

  • 4 years ago

    Hi @Kyle


    I'm not sure where he got it from, my plumber. But it was the same chrome-plated color. I think it simply was any pipe with the same type of look/material with the same opening width.


    He cut it here, out in our garden, with a simple metal cutter. Filed the part that goes against the escutcheon down with a metal file over and over until it sat smoothly against the escutcheon. The original un-cut opening is facing the tiles.